Subject: Re: Debunking the Linux-Windows market-share myth - March 14, 2003
From: furbs (furbs@swjedi.net)
Date: Sun Jan 03 1999 - 16:16:16 AKST
Personally, I would say the Microsoft platforms are not really that great
of gaming platforms because of the constant processes tying things up and
random hard drive access' that impede the performance of a gaming machine. The
only reason I still use Windows is because of the support for Games and video
drivers. Although I must say that the support for Stereo glasses isn't all that
great for windows environments. With things like wine I have been able to get
functionality out of some games, and for example Quake3 works flawlessly as far
as I know. It will even run a server fine to Windows clients. Linux is already
bleeding into the best dedicated servers, although the true support for it is
low and some of the time that it takes to get some game servers working
properly.
I think the biggest problem is that Linux is capturing the server
environment left and right. Linux can do web hosting, firewall, routing, domain
controller, and tons of things many people have never heard of. I recently
found this online: http://www.jsk.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/research/h6/index.html
This runs on an special Real-time implementation of Linux. Back to the issues,
is that the gaming market sees all these server based enhancments that show up
in news and in articles all over the place. But nothing about the capabilities
to perform as a desktop and gaming environment. While I think the desktop
environment is fine, still buggy at times, it's progress has been amazing in
just the past 2 years. Currently the Sims has been ported to work with Linux,
and you can use the standard Windows releases of the expansion packs to run
them on the Linux ported Sims core. The other big issue is that a lot of
Graphics cards producers havn't been producing drivers for their cards until
recently and games could not utilize the cards to their full extent, and the
support for Linux drivers as far as I know still don't seem very good. For
example, last I tried (couple months ago) my RedHat 8.0 system ran better with
my 64mb Radeon 7200, than with a 64mb GeForce4 ti 4200. The performance
difference was that the GeForce made gaming literally impossible.
=====================================================
Windows vs. Linux: Summed up in one While statement
(Done for fun, and a couple minutes of spare boredom)
=====================================================
$Win_Ver=array("95","98","NT","2000","XP");
While ($System != Null)
{
If ( $System{0,3} == "Win")
{
foreach $Win_Ver as $Version
{
if ( $System == "Windows".$Version )
{
$Poo=True;
}
}
}
else if ( $System == "Linux" )
{
$Poo=False;
}
if ($Poo)
{
Blue_Screen();
}
else
{
Run_Forever();
}
}
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Brian ThunderEagle
- http://www.swjedi.net
- furbs@swjedi.net
- bthundereagle@aidea.org
Quoting Newnham <newnham@gci.net>:
>
> Supported,
> There are a few games that ported to linux and I think they run better.
> Also
> gaming servers run better on a linux box. But like someone else said once
> linux becomes bigger than windows, th games will start porting (on the
> desktop market).
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Gribbin" <jewelrysupplier@gci.net>
> To: "Newnham" <newnham@gci.net>
> Cc: "AKLUG" <aklug@aklug.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Debunking the Linux-Windows market-share myth - March 14, 2003
>
>
> > Is Ms a 'better' platform for games, or merely more supported?
> >
> > Jim Gribbin
> >
> > On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 15:05, Newnham wrote:
> > > Well i think Linux is missing a big component for our younger audience.
> > > GAMES, Microsoft still as a beter platform for RPG games and MOMRPG
> games.
> > > untill Linux finds a way to support these, wWindos will aways have a
> place
> > > in my house(unfortunatley)
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Larry Collier" <larry@medease.com>
> > > To: "Bryan Hickok" <bhickok@alaskapacific.edu>; "Stanley Long"
> > > <slong@customcpu.com>; "AKLUG" <aklug@aklug.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:44 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Debunking the Linux-Windows market-share myth - March 14,
> 2003
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I think it already is. If it were not why is MS fighting it with
> such
> > > zeal.
> > > > I have two workstations by my desk. One is running WIN2K the other
> RH8.0.
> > > > There is nothing I can do on the 2K box I can't do on the RH box.
> Inertia
> > > > (of my customers) is the only thing keeping the 2K box here. I'd
> much
> > > > prefer 2 RH boxes. They don't need to be rebooted anywhere near as
> often.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone who can unpack a preinstalled windows could just as well
> unpack
> a
> > > > preinstalled RH8.0 and start using either of them.
> > > >
> > > > Larry
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: aklug-bounce@aklug.org [mailto:aklug-bounce@aklug.org]On Behalf
> Of
> > > > Bryan Hickok
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 4:42 PM
> > > > To: Stanley Long; AKLUG
> > > > Subject: RE: Debunking the Linux-Windows market-share myth - March
> 14,
> > > > 2003
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > When will Linux become a powerful competitor in the desktop OS
> market?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Stanley Long [mailto:slong@customcpu.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 4:39 PM
> > > > To: AKLUG
> > > > Subject: Debunking the Linux-Windows market-share myth - March 14,
> 2003
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There are dozens of reasons why people have underestimated how
> quickly =
> > > >
> > > > Linux has been grabbing Windows' market share.
> > > >
> > > > - March 14, 2003
> > > > http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2003/0314.petreley.html=20
> > > > <http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2003/0314.petreley.html>
> > > >
> > > > Evans Data Corporation hired me to help out with a research report=20
> > > > focused on Linux developers.
> > > >
> > > > Of the developers surveyed, more than 50 percent who now develop=20
> > > > primarily for Linux used to develop primarily for Windows.
> > > >
> > > > ... This year, Windows commands attention of 50 percent of the=20
> > > > developers. Roughly 40 percent focus primarily on Linux. These=20
> > > > priorities will switch places almost number-for-number next year. ...
> > > >
> > > > Assuming you could get a reliable snapshot of Windows and Linux
> machines =
> > > >
> > > > installed, there is yet another complicating factor that renders
> this=20
> > > > less-meaningful. Linux runs on far more hardware platforms,
> including=20
> > > > those that outperform Intel-based systems. Even on Intel, Linux=20
> > > > outperforms Windows.
> > > >
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