[aklug] Re: IPv6 benefits me...

From: Arthur Corliss <acorliss@nevaeh-linux.org>
Date: Wed Jun 06 2012 - 12:54:19 AKDT

On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Erinn Looney-Triggs wrote:

> Ugh, ok lets go back to the basic premise and I will try to restate my
> argument.
>
> You: "FYI: once everyone is on IPv6 you'll essentially have a static IP."
>
> Me, restating what I was trying to say: No not for everyone
> unfortunately, I would prefer they did but not everyone will.

Ah, but everyone can, and quite easily, too.

>> So, again, it's not unreasonable to question the relevance. Most people on
>> this list interested in setting up a server are overwhelmingly likely to be
>> setting up Linux servers, not MS servers, and for the minority doing the
>> latter it still doesn't answer the question as to how long the random ID
>> lasts, the article you posted doesn't explicitly say. Correct me if I
>> missed it.
>
> Fine we won't talk about Microsoft as they are not relevant, refer back
> to the basic statement from you about everyone, that was all I was
> responding to, and trying to throw a bit of (perhaps) new knowledge in
> to the pool.

Don't get your knickers all twisted up. I appreciate your giving
us all a heads on MS' practices. That said, you haven't shown how
(im)persistent that random ID is on the server, nor do you seem to
acknowledge that the random ID is separate from the privacy settings, which
is pertinent to whether the permanent addresses get rotated. Rotation makes
sense for the outbound anonymous connections, but a lot less sense for
inbound services. I'd be extremely surprise if even MS would advocate that
kind of idiocy, since during the period of rotation there's going to be a
period of inaccessibility for other clients trying to contact the server on
the old cached address. That wouldn't make their servers look very good.

And *that* is relevant as to whether the random ID itself is still
practically useful as a static IP. But, even if it isn't the fact that you
only have to run a single netsh command to get the normal EUI-64 address
makes your stance untenable. Your input would have been more useful if you
said "FYI, you'll need to run this netsh command to get that behavior on MS
platforms."

Finally: know your audience. It's good to know what the other OS'es are
doing for interoperability purposes. But I can say with 99% certainty that
Chris wasn't asking for the purposes of setting up a Windows server.

         --Arthur Corliss
           Live Free or Die
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