[aklug] Re: multiple distros coordinate to establish /run directory

From: Greg Madden <gomadtroll@gci.net>
Date: Thu Mar 31 2011 - 15:29:15 AKDT

On Thursday 31 March 2011 02:33:37 pm adam bultman wrote:
> On 03/31/2011 01:21 PM, Arthur Corliss wrote:
> > On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Greg Madden wrote:
> >
> > This is the mess that we're in, and it's accelerating. For people who
> > actually give a crap about security and robustness it makes it magnitudes
> > harder to maintain that level of compliance. Not to mention that with
> > the poorer quality of ancillary software in general you end up having to
> > have more scheduled downtime to apply patches with greater frequency.
> > Kind of like... Microsoft. Huh. Funny how that works.
> >
> > You know where to shove your elitist comment, Greg. ;-)
>
> Well, Greg might want to put it in /run, but you, Arthur, might want to
> put it in /var/run .
>
> Not that this really has too much bearing on this particular discussion,
> but with me running RHEL/CentOS, and all the extra baggage (and yes,
> there is a ton of excess baggage that I wish I could get rid of but
> cannot thanks to dependencies) my servers still go down WAY less than
> the windows boxes here at work. Personal best for a server here is
> 1027 days nonstop uptime - I built it, it ran, and then I had to move
> to another server a couple years later - and that includes weekly
> patching via RHEL's patching stuff, which included everything, including
> kernels (I didn't reboot, so the newer kernels just sat in orbit around
> a central axis.) MySQL ran for at least a year without being restarted
> (only requiring that so I could have it listen on more IP addresses than
> just a single private IP).
>
> So, while we're on a rollercoaster of doom quite possibly could
> terminate into an ocean of gore and flying bodies, at least we'll
> require more than just our fingers and toes to count uptime.

Apologies to all, esp Arthur. Humour doesn't play out well on the list, at least
not my attempt.

I am not liking the direction GNU/linux is headed. My perspective is user space,
new software introduces new bugs and regressions. I don't see the point in stuff
that once worked no longer working, or taking more time and/or resources to do.
The KDE4 & now Gnome3 Juggernauts are good examples.

 I do think Gnome3 is aimed at ex Windows users. It is getting harder to keep your
hands on the keyboard to do work, that mouse thing is taking over.

I am not into Desktop Environments, but do appreciate latest versions of core
applications for my work. Catch 22?

-- 
Peace,
Greg
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