[aklug] Re: Gui WYSIWYG web development tools

I've used Amaya; handy but CSS is still a manual headache and some versions n=
ot that stable.=20

On Jul 17, 2010, at 8:47 AM, WH Bouterse <bill@bouterse.com> wrote:

> I too know pro webfolks who have used Dreamweaver; in one case over 10 yea=
rs.
> It CAN be run through WINE...
> I have installed and tested the 30day demo .
> However there are those who use open-source tools instead.
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> This http://www.w3.org/Amaya/ has interested me for years but I know no-on=
e who has used it !?
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> Here's a long outdated link but with some useful info
> http://tips.webdesign10.com/using-linux-for-web-design-and-development-ubu=
ntu
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> =46rom the time years ago when a little HTML coding and GIMP could get one=
 up and running
> things sure have changed.!
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> WHB
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damien Hull" <damien@linuxninjas.tv>
> To: "Christopher Howard" <choward@indicium.us>
> Cc: "Alaska Linux Users Group" <aklug@aklug.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 6:16:10 PM
> Subject: [aklug] Re: Gui WYSIWYG web development tools
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> I know professional web developers. They use dreamweaver. I've also
> seen it mentioned in professional web design magazines. That doesn't
> mean that all web developers use it.
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> You still need to understand the code. If you don't know CSS, java
> script etc... You won't get very far.
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> I'm not a web developer but I wish I was.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 16, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Christopher Howard <choward@indicium.us> wrot=
e:
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>> On 07/15/2010 10:55 PM, Damien Hull wrote:
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>>> Weather this list likes it or not a lot of web development is done
>>> with dreamweaver. You can even get plugins for wordpress.
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>> Really? My impression was that no professional Web developers ever used
>> Dreamweaver. Long ago, I even took a Dreamweaver class (I'm not sure
>> why) and the teacher told us that reason he wouldn't be covering any
>> advanced subjects was because real programmers and web developers would
>> never use it.
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>> Outside of that class, I've never met anyone (professional or amateur)
>> who used Dreamweaver for anything. I have run across one or two amateurs
>> who rely on those cheesy editing tools that come with their hosting
>> package. Also, I think a lot of official Web pages around UAF are built
>> on Roxen (though, I don't know how many people are actually happy about
>> that).
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>> Back when I tried Dreamweaver, I remember being rather disappointed
>> because, for all the hundreds it cost, it didn't really make it any
>> /easier/ to do styling. I still had to figure out the more complex CSS
>> for special formatting (expanding divs, special borders, etc.)
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>> - --
>> Christopher Howard
>> http://frigidcode.com
>> http://theologia.indicium.us
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