[aklug] Re: [aklug-ops] Re: How to Make a Contribution to AKLUG

From: Greg Madden <pabi@gci.net>
Date: Tue Jan 29 2008 - 14:44:21 AKST

On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Arthur Corliss wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Greg Madden wrote:
> > Arthur, first off, as you well know, Aklug is a corporation in
> > Alaska, has a PO and a bank account. All these things have previously
> > agreed upon by the membership of Aklug. You , as one vote, have
> > turned A simple request for donations to fund this structure into :
> > 1. a debate on the need for this structure, and 2. questioning the
> > right of Aklug membership to use the Aklug name in promoting
> > GNU/Linux.
> >
> > This seems very heavy handed way to voice your objections to the way
> > the membership has decided to do business. It would be more
> > productive? to , as a separate item, to bring up your concerns to the
> > membership, kind of like a democratic process.
>
> Let's cut the bull, Gregg. *You* guys turned this into what it is by
> simply refusing to answer the original question. And to date, you guys
> are all still dancing around the question.
>
> I wasn't heavy handed to begin with, I asked a simple question as to
> what the benefits of the entity were, and what practical effect it
> would have on us if we chose to not continue this. Not one of you
> chose to answer that question, even now. Instead, you made me become
> much more insistent since some perhaps don't think they should have to
> answer questions from the unwashed masses.
>
> You may not like my presentation, Gregg, but that's not really relevant
> to the discussion, is it? The fact remains that if you guys really
> wanted to have a democratic process you would answer the damned
> question once and for all and let the voting membership decide if this
> is a logical course to maintain.
>
> So, for the billionth time: how have we ever leveraged our legal
> status that makes the ongoing expense worthwhile? What impact would
> there be to FNL, the IT Expo, or any other routine AKLUG activity if we
> chose to terminate the legal entity?
>
> Several members here have acknowledged that those are all very
> pertinent, and valid questions that deserve answering. Now we'll see
> if you guys actually believe that this is a democratic process. Give
> us the information and let's put this to a vote.
>
> I will also reiterate for the umpteenth time: I'm not knocking anyone
> for a past decision, in fact, I'll help defray the cost of that past
> decision. I am saying that we need to make a logical decision for the
> future, though. If you have any evidence that there is real value, and
> that convinces the majority here, I'll go with it. Until that happens,
> though, I am not going to sit idly by and not question the decisions of
> a few who want to make the decision themselves, in a vaccuum.
>
> --Arthur Corliss
> Live Free or Die

Ah.... this is to hard . For the record though I am not a member of any
group/sig in Aklug called 'you guys' or 'they' or any permutation there
of. I represent no one but myself.

-- 
Greg Madden
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