Re: UAA List Serve

Top posting...

I'm going to talk out my butt a bit here. I don't know what the setup is
with UAA and the AKLUG listserve. That is, if AKLUG pays dues for
having mail hosted there, or if it's free for anybody, or if some UAA
Admin somewhere is doing AKLUG a favor. If AKLUG isn't paying for it or
hasn't gotten explicit statements saying that yes, AKLUG's mailing list
is hosted free, then there is something to be said for not bothering the
admins. I had free hosting for over a year (I did some favors for the
admins) and when I had problems, I was very reluctant to ask for help.
I didn't want to make waves, especially since when the admins were
helping me, they weren't generating revenue (especially since they
weren't making money off me. Which they now are.)

As for having root: Of course, not everybody will have root. Odds are
that one or two people will have root, and another one or two people
will have accounts. So effectively, we wouldn't "have root". However, we
would be able to manage the system - add new software, update software,
etc. I'm assuming that right now, AKLUG has zero control over the
mailing list apart from one person who kicks people off or lets them on
when they ask to join.

I imagine it's also the nerd factor. I mean, c'mon, we're a LUG. If we
don't have a box on the 'net that we can call "Our Own", then what will
we do with all our extra time? Something productive? Naahhh....

Adam

David Syzdek wrote:
> Greg Madden wrote:
>
>
>> ...I believe we should host
>> our own list so we can have root on the box.
>>
>
>
> Greg Madden wrote:
>
>> This is not true in our case.If we host the list serve and give the
>> appropriate permissions to manage the the list plus direction, Aklug
>> gains control of the list, and can resolve issues that have afflicted
>> users, something that is only a wish at this time.
>>
>> I move we move the list to Dee's server unless someone else volunteers a
>> list serve.
>>
>>
>
> First, there are lots of organizations that run mailing lists and do not
> have root access of the hosting servers. AKLUG should be no different.
> I am puzzled how having root access to a unix server will assist the
> group in maintaining a mailing list. Could someone please explain why
> AKLUG would need root access to manage a mailing list when other
> organizations seem to due fine without it?
>
> Second, I agree with Jim Gribbin, before making the decision to move the
> mailing list to a new server that is maintained by the group, the group
> should determine the cause of the problem. It surely will not consume
> much of the UAA admins time to provide the logs pertaining to the AKLUG
> mailing list so we can determine why users are being removed from the list.
>
> If the users are being removed due to bounce messages, then the problem
> is with the individual users' mailboxes not with the mailing list.
> Moving to a new platform and disabling this feature could create
> additional problems/issues for the entire list, not just those users
> with temperamental mailboxes.
>
> Of course if this is just justification to gain complete control over
> the mailing server, much like my desire for a DVD burner justified (at
> least that's what I tell myself) buying a new laptop, then disregard
> this message.
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Received on Tue Dec 5 17:39:23 2006