Subject: Re: reviving old computers
From: newnham (newnham@gci.net)
Date: Thu May 02 2002 - 12:02:50 AKDT
You guys,
This is very silly. How many times has Microsoft contacted you and asked if
you still had the oem software for your computer? Or better yet, how many
times do you go to the salvation army to get a system and it comes with its
original software? The fact is that Microsoft has no way of verifying that
the software you bought is OEM with your computer or a part that you put in
your computer.
At CompRen you could buy hardware then a copy of a license, and the hardware
could be anything, includint peripherals. I only see this as a way to scam
te customers into buying stuff they don't need. I don't believe Microsoft is
going to try to prosecute individuals and small businesses to verify that
the software was kept with the system. Corporations, however, are a
different story.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Collier" <larry@medease.net>
To: "aklug@aklug. org" <aklug@aklug.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:54 PM
Subject: RE: reviving old computers
>
> My question is "what is a computer?" My windows system has migrated
through
> several motherboards, cpus, power supplies, cases, video cards, etc.
There
> isn't anything original left except my windows license. Since I put it
> together from parts it doesn't have a manufacturer serial number. I got
the
> OEM license when I bought a disk drive.
>
> You can get Microsoft oem licenses by buying dimms. What's the legal
> attachment? I think that this would be very difficult to argue in court
> unless you buy the judge.
>
> Larry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aklug-bounce@aklug.org [mailto:aklug-bounce@aklug.org]On Behalf Of
> > Mike Barsalou
> > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 8:37 AM
> > To: 'Dominic Bernardo'
> > Cc: 'aklug@aklug.org'
> > Subject: RE: reviving old computers
> >
> >
> >
> > Dominic,
> >
> > I followed this one of the links to the fact that it is a legal
> > requirement
> > to keep the OS with the PC...however, what the article fails to grasp is
> > that they are speaking of how you would use the Windows license.
> >
> > For example..if you bought an OEM machine with Windows, then donated the
> > machine, you would be required to give the OS to the company as well.
You
> > could not install the OS that was on the OEM machine onto a different
> > machine.
> >
> > They do not control what operating system that you can put on a
> > PC that you
> > buy from a manufacturer.
> >
> > I am not a lawyer either, and I can see how it would be easy to
> > misconstrue
> > the message from Microsoft's website.
> >
> > If you look at the first question and answer, you might be able
> > to draw the
> > same conclusion as the author of that article...but I believe he
> > is mistaken
> > and what I described above is correct.
> >
> > Any other opinions?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dominic Bernardo [mailto:warthog@gci.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 8:26 PM
> > To: Mike Barsalou
> > Cc: 'aklug@aklug.org'
> > Subject: Re: reviving old computers
> >
> >
> > Since I'm not a lawyer, I can't comment on the
> > accuracy of this article that appeared today:
> >
> http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/17546.html
>
> ~Dom
>
> Mike Barsalou wrote:
> >
> > I have done some of this myself...with mixed results.
> >
> > For example, I approached someone that didn't have a computer with the
> idea that I would give them a machine would be able to access e-mail.
> Initially they were excited. Then we discussed, because the machine was
old
> and underpowered, that you would be using a text based mail reader.
> >
> > Right away the excitement left...they said that they wanted to be able
to
> get/send pictures with their friends as well as browse the internet.
> >
> > Now with a 56k modem X doesn't have to be terribly fast, but there is a
> lower limit...anyone know what it is?
> >
> > At one point I was able to setup a very minimal X with netscape as the
> browser. It ran reasonably well...probably could have used some more
> memory.
> >
> > Why don't we try and come up with a good "standard" for the type of
> machine that would be acceptable to someone who doesn't have one?
> >
> > At that point we can address the issues of maintenance and upkeep.
> >
> > Mike
> >
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