Subject: Re: [Fwd: [luau] A Mission For Luau]
From: Justin Dieters (enderak@gci.net)
Date: Wed May 01 2002 - 12:10:09 AKDT
The high schools seem to be about half mac & half pc, at least Chugiak was
when I graduated in 1999..
Justin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Collier" <larry@medease.net>
To: <aklug@aklug.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Fwd: [luau] A Mission For Luau]
>
> The ASD is so Mac oriented, I doubt you could give them brand new pc's
with
> Linux installed. My sons have been in four different schools here and
every
> one of them seems to run 25 to 50 Macs per PC. The PC's are in great
> demand, by the way, by the 90+% of students with PC's at home. this
doesn't
> leak through to the bureaucrats though.
>
> Larry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aklug-bounce@aklug.org [mailto:aklug-bounce@aklug.org]On Behalf Of
> > James McMorris
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:46 AM
> > To: aklug@aklug.org
> > Subject: Re: [Fwd: [luau] A Mission For Luau]
> >
> >
> >
> > My thoughts:
> > -I saw the news story too. They said there we a total 8700 machines
> > district-wide. Even at 5% penetration, that's alot of work for
> > volunteers. Both deploying and maintaining...even if you use Norton
> > Ghost or something similar.
> > -Schools have alot of Macs...what percentage of the list recipients
> > feel proficent on a Mac. I only touched one once and that was at
> > Kinkos.
> > -I saw a TechTV news piece last year on this place in Oakland...very
> > impressive. They have more machines than they know what to do with. I
> > posed this question to the list last year inquiring if there were any
> > organization that refubished machines to give to non-profits in our
> > area. All responses were "No".
> >
> >
> > -Jim "Buddha" McMorris
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jon Reynolds <jonr@destar.net>
> > Date: Wednesday, May 1, 2002 10:06 am
> > Subject: [Fwd: [luau] A Mission For Luau]
> >
> > > I am on an linux mailing list in Hawaii and this was brought up as an
> > > idea, which has generated a lot of responses. Should we be doing
> > > something similiar? Do we have a way, or an idea, on how to get
> > > linux in
> > > more areas of our community? I think this is an excellent idea for old
> > > computers, and a great way to promote linux. I don't know if any
> > > of you
> > > saw the news last night about some of the local schools dont have
> > > decentsystems because the hardware is so old and it will cost
> > > around 2million
> > > to bring them up to speed. This could be a problem we could help
> > > alleviate. There are schools down in Oregon that are going open
> > > source,we could look at their model abd try it up here. What do
> > > the rest of you
> > > think?
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Several weeks ago I spoke with Jon Fujiwara at the University of
> > > Hawaii's College of Business about taking all the computers they
> > > trash
> > > and doing something with them. The idea came from observing this
> > > heap
> > > of hardware that sat under a staircase for weeks while everything
> > > good
> > > was pilfered. Eventually it was all trashed. I am convinced that
> > > a lot
> > > of that could have been used. Jon tells me that the few charities
> > > who
> > > accept hardware only want stuff "fast" enough to run windows.
> > > This
> > > leaves a lot of "trash". Charles described to me another pile of
> > > pc's
> > > outside of UH's Physics department. I think that if we want to
> > > positively influence the community's impression of Linux/*bsd, the
> > > conversion of old PC's for the poor and disenfranchised (of which
> > > we
> > > have much in Hawaii) should become our mission. It would create
> > > great
> > > press for linux in general, and it would generate networking
> > > opportunities for you guys who want it. Perhaps a non-profit
> > > company
> > > could be created to facilitate this. I have a second phone line
> > > that
> > > could be used to field interested calls. I am sure that we all
> > > have
> > > space to store some hardware; I have a large garage I can donate.
> > > You
> > > each could help hunt down "junk" from our local universities, etc.
> > >
> > > Every day there is good stuff going to waste here. There is a
> > > tremendous digital divide on the islands. I would imaging many of
> > > Sandi
> > > and Dustin's neighbors in the Kahaluu area could benefit. There
> > > are
> > > churches, senior citizens, etc., that are waiting for your efforts
> > > and
> > > creativity. We as the local linux community can do something
> > > about this
> > > that demonstrates our capacity to affect real social change with
> > > this
> > > open source linux thing.
> > >
> > > I have been waiting for when I had time to delve into this to post
> > > it to
> > > the group. The post below that I saw on Slashdot is inspiring.
> > > Here in
> > > the land of Aloha we can do something special. Let's find a way.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/04/25/0515220&mode=flat&tid=99
> > >
> > > An Anonymous Coward writes "Out in Oakland, CA a group is taking
> > > donated
> > > PC's and breathing new life into them with Linux. They turn around
> > > and
> > > donate the computers to schools, build POVRAY render farms (with
> > > MOSIX)
> > > and generally promote Linux."
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > Several weeks ago I spoke with Jon Fujiwara at the University of
> > > Hawaii's College of Business about taking all the computers they trash
> > > and doing something with them. The idea came from observing this heap
> > > of hardware that sat under a staircase for weeks while everything good
> > > was pilfered. Eventually it was all trashed. I am convinced that a
> > > lot of that could have been used. Jon tells me that the few charities
> > > who accept hardware only want stuff "fast" enough to run windows.
> > > This leaves a lot of "trash". Charles described to me another
> > > pile of
> > > pc's outside of UH's Physics department. I think that if we want to
> > > positively influence the community's impression of Linux/*bsd, the
> > > conversion of old PC's for the poor and disenfranchised (of which we
> > > have much in Hawaii) should become our mission. It would create great
> > > press for linux in general, and it would generate networking
> > > opportunities for you guys who want it. Perhaps a non-profit company
> > > could be created to facilitate this. I have a second phone line that
> > > could be used to field interested calls. I am sure that we all have
> > > space to store some hardware; I have a large garage I can donate. You
> > > each could help hunt down "junk" from our local universities, etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > Every day there is good stuff going to waste here. There is a
> > > tremendous digital divide on the islands. I would imaging many of
> > > Sandi and Dustin's neighbors in the Kahaluu area could benefit. There
> > > are churches, senior citizens, etc., that are waiting for your efforts
> > > and creativity. We as the local linux community can do something
> > > about this that demonstrates our capacity to affect real social change
> > > with this open source linux thing.
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been waiting for when I had time to delve into this to post it
> > > to the group. The post below that I saw on Slashdot is inspiring.
> > > Here in the land of Aloha we can do something special. Let's find a
> > > way.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/04/25/0515220&mode=flat&tid=99
> > >
> > >
> > > <fontfamily><param>Times New Roman</param><bigger><bigger>An Anonymous
> > > Coward writes <italic>"Out in Oakland, CA a group is
> > > <underline><color><param>0000,6666,6666</param>taking donated PC's and
> > > breathing new life into them with Linux</color></underline>. They turn
> > > around and donate the computers to schools, build POVRAY render farms
> > > (with MOSIX) and generally promote Linux."</italic>
> > > </bigger></bigger></fontfamily>
> > >
> > >
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