Subject: RE: [Fwd: [luau] A Mission For Luau]
From: Larry Collier (larry@medease.net)
Date: Wed May 01 2002 - 12:31:38 AKDT
The ASD is so Mac oriented, I doubt you could give them brand new pc's with
Linux installed. My sons have been in four different schools here and every
one of them seems to run 25 to 50 Macs per PC. The PC's are in great
demand, by the way, by the 90+% of students with PC's at home. this doesn't
leak through to the bureaucrats though.
Larry
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> James McMorris
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>
> My thoughts:
> -I saw the news story too. They said there we a total 8700 machines
> district-wide. Even at 5% penetration, that's alot of work for
> volunteers. Both deploying and maintaining...even if you use Norton
> Ghost or something similar.
> -Schools have alot of Macs...what percentage of the list recipients
> feel proficent on a Mac. I only touched one once and that was at
> Kinkos.
> -I saw a TechTV news piece last year on this place in Oakland...very
> impressive. They have more machines than they know what to do with. I
> posed this question to the list last year inquiring if there were any
> organization that refubished machines to give to non-profits in our
> area. All responses were "No".
>
>
> -Jim "Buddha" McMorris
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jon Reynolds <jonr@destar.net>
> Date: Wednesday, May 1, 2002 10:06 am
> Subject: [Fwd: [luau] A Mission For Luau]
>
> > I am on an linux mailing list in Hawaii and this was brought up as an
> > idea, which has generated a lot of responses. Should we be doing
> > something similiar? Do we have a way, or an idea, on how to get
> > linux in
> > more areas of our community? I think this is an excellent idea for old
> > computers, and a great way to promote linux. I don't know if any
> > of you
> > saw the news last night about some of the local schools dont have
> > decentsystems because the hardware is so old and it will cost
> > around 2million
> > to bring them up to speed. This could be a problem we could help
> > alleviate. There are schools down in Oregon that are going open
> > source,we could look at their model abd try it up here. What do
> > the rest of you
> > think?
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
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> > Several weeks ago I spoke with Jon Fujiwara at the University of
> > Hawaii's College of Business about taking all the computers they
> > trash
> > and doing something with them. The idea came from observing this
> > heap
> > of hardware that sat under a staircase for weeks while everything
> > good
> > was pilfered. Eventually it was all trashed. I am convinced that
> > a lot
> > of that could have been used. Jon tells me that the few charities
> > who
> > accept hardware only want stuff "fast" enough to run windows.
> > This
> > leaves a lot of "trash". Charles described to me another pile of
> > pc's
> > outside of UH's Physics department. I think that if we want to
> > positively influence the community's impression of Linux/*bsd, the
> > conversion of old PC's for the poor and disenfranchised (of which
> > we
> > have much in Hawaii) should become our mission. It would create
> > great
> > press for linux in general, and it would generate networking
> > opportunities for you guys who want it. Perhaps a non-profit
> > company
> > could be created to facilitate this. I have a second phone line
> > that
> > could be used to field interested calls. I am sure that we all
> > have
> > space to store some hardware; I have a large garage I can donate.
> > You
> > each could help hunt down "junk" from our local universities, etc.
> >
> > Every day there is good stuff going to waste here. There is a
> > tremendous digital divide on the islands. I would imaging many of
> > Sandi
> > and Dustin's neighbors in the Kahaluu area could benefit. There
> > are
> > churches, senior citizens, etc., that are waiting for your efforts
> > and
> > creativity. We as the local linux community can do something
> > about this
> > that demonstrates our capacity to affect real social change with
> > this
> > open source linux thing.
> >
> > I have been waiting for when I had time to delve into this to post
> > it to
> > the group. The post below that I saw on Slashdot is inspiring.
> > Here in
> > the land of Aloha we can do something special. Let's find a way.
> >
> >
> > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/04/25/0515220&mode=flat&tid=99
> >
> > An Anonymous Coward writes "Out in Oakland, CA a group is taking
> > donated
> > PC's and breathing new life into them with Linux. They turn around
> > and
> > donate the computers to schools, build POVRAY render farms (with
> > MOSIX)
> > and generally promote Linux."
> >
> >
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> > Several weeks ago I spoke with Jon Fujiwara at the University of
> > Hawaii's College of Business about taking all the computers they trash
> > and doing something with them. The idea came from observing this heap
> > of hardware that sat under a staircase for weeks while everything good
> > was pilfered. Eventually it was all trashed. I am convinced that a
> > lot of that could have been used. Jon tells me that the few charities
> > who accept hardware only want stuff "fast" enough to run windows.
> > This leaves a lot of "trash". Charles described to me another
> > pile of
> > pc's outside of UH's Physics department. I think that if we want to
> > positively influence the community's impression of Linux/*bsd, the
> > conversion of old PC's for the poor and disenfranchised (of which we
> > have much in Hawaii) should become our mission. It would create great
> > press for linux in general, and it would generate networking
> > opportunities for you guys who want it. Perhaps a non-profit company
> > could be created to facilitate this. I have a second phone line that
> > could be used to field interested calls. I am sure that we all have
> > space to store some hardware; I have a large garage I can donate. You
> > each could help hunt down "junk" from our local universities, etc.
> >
> >
> > Every day there is good stuff going to waste here. There is a
> > tremendous digital divide on the islands. I would imaging many of
> > Sandi and Dustin's neighbors in the Kahaluu area could benefit. There
> > are churches, senior citizens, etc., that are waiting for your efforts
> > and creativity. We as the local linux community can do something
> > about this that demonstrates our capacity to affect real social change
> > with this open source linux thing.
> >
> >
> > I have been waiting for when I had time to delve into this to post it
> > to the group. The post below that I saw on Slashdot is inspiring.
> > Here in the land of Aloha we can do something special. Let's find a
> > way.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/04/25/0515220&mode=flat&tid=99
> >
> >
> > <fontfamily><param>Times New Roman</param><bigger><bigger>An Anonymous
> > Coward writes <italic>"Out in Oakland, CA a group is
> > <underline><color><param>0000,6666,6666</param>taking donated PC's and
> > breathing new life into them with Linux</color></underline>. They turn
> > around and donate the computers to schools, build POVRAY render farms
> > (with MOSIX) and generally promote Linux."</italic>
> > </bigger></bigger></fontfamily>
> >
> >
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