[aklug] Re: Higher education

All about who you know here in Alaska...More certs the better, but I've seen experience and friendship far out weigh any certs or formal education here in Alaska.
2 cents,
--eddie

> From: damien@linuxninjas.tv
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:12:35 -0800
> Subject: [aklug] Re: Higher education
> To: timgibney76@gmail.com
> CC: aklug@aklug.org
>
> I'm currently going to charter college. I have an associates degree in IT.
> working on my bachelors degree.
> I hope it helps. I haven't done any job searching yet. I wanna walk in with
> as much fire power as possible. I've gotten interviews in the past but for
> unknown reasons I haven't gotten a job yet.
>
> When I get out of here I should have about five certs and a bachelors
> degree. If I get turned down with all of that then I don't know. Part of me
> thinks you need to know people.
>
> I was told by one guy that he needed a cert to get a raise. HR was part of
> the process and they can't tell what you do unless they see something they
> understand.
>
> If the job says CCNP or MCSE (that's changed to something else) then they
> expect you to have at least that much. HR won't know the technical details.
>
> I'm still trying to figure out how the hiring process works.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 10, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Tim Gibney <timgibney76@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Do you mind if I ask about your education background?
>
> Do you have a degree in Computer Science or Mathematics? I am wondering if
> HR uses this filtering mechanism over certifications. It seems HR does the
> filtering first before most managers take a look at your resume.
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Damien Hull <damien@linuxninjas.tv> wrote:
>
> > I think were in the same situation job wise. I'm in school cause I
> > could get a job. It seems companies in town either have no clue what
> > they're looking for or want someone with a million years of experience
> > and certs.
> >
> > My plan is to get as many certs as I can and see what happens. I would
> > like to enter the world of routing. Got my CCNA and CCNA security.
> > Thought about the CCNP but it's kinda tough with out experience.
> >
> > I've also have the LPI Linux cert. I could go for a linux admin job
> > but those are hard to find here.
> >
> > Hope you find something. Just remember there are a lot of people in
> > town with Microsoft certs and experience.
> >
> > I'm thinking CCDA and ms small business server certs next. After the
> > Ubuntu cert. Something like that.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Aug 8, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Tim Gibney <timgibney76@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I am in a rough time of my life.
> > > I want an entry level job in management information systems. I have not
> > > worked in I.T. in a couple of years and I took any job I could when the
> > > economy tanked in 2008. All the I.T. jobs here require an A+, MCSE, and
> > 3-5
> > > years of experience. However, many of the jobs will take a masters degree
> > in
> > > substitution of experience. I have 2 years experience on a pc support
> > level
> > > and I already have an A+, and a MCSE in Windows NT and Windows 2000.
> > >
> > > I am contemplating getting a masters degree in computer information
> > systems
> > > but have trouble finding a masters degree program that does not involve
> > > daytime classes and I need to work to pay off my wife's student loans.
> > There
> > > is a distance learning computer science degree but the highest math I
> > > completed was algebra II and discrete mathematics. I flunked precalc
> > > initially because I didn't have the time to practice it for hours to
> > really
> > > learn the concepts. The distance learning programs in Alaska do not have
> > > this.
> > >
> > > My first question is should I even bother with this? I need money now and
> > > just got a 2nd job at Taco bell (not proud of and embarrassed) but if I
> > can
> > > get an entry level I.T. job I can quit it because it would pay +$800 -
> > $1000
> > > a month from what I am making now as a substitute teacher.
> > >
> > > My second question is should I major in computer science. I have a very
> > > analytical mindset but I am disorganized in thought and have a tendency
> > to
> > > transpose numbers. Is the coursework hard if you are dedicated to
> > > practicing? I love algebra but again precalc was very hard for me, but I
> > am
> > > willing to do more homework this time around.
> > >
> > > My third question is do employers, or I should HR mind if it is a
> > computer
> > > management degree rather than a computer science degree that is masters
> > > level?
> > >
> > > Should I bother or move on if my experience is too entry level and far
> > > behind (masters degree or not)? I am very frustrated as my dream for 10
> > > years was to be a systems analysis and design LAN's, databases, and do
> > > programming. I feel that is the only skillset I know besides some
> > accounting
> > > and HR learned from college as a business administration major for my
> > > undergraduate degree.
> > >
> > > Any advice would help.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Tim gibney
> > >
> > >
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