[aklug] Re: Alaska peering

From: Jim Gribbin <jimgribbin@gmail.com>
Date: Tue Jun 08 2010 - 14:34:34 AKDT

I seem to remember something from about 10 years ago where AKLUG was
looking into setting up some sort of peering or intertie system between
Internet-Alaska/ATU & GCI as a community service project.

Jim G

On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 10:19 -0800, Arthur Corliss wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Jun 2010, Royce Williams wrote:
>
> > Copy that.
> >
> > Teach me to fish a little, if you would ...how could Joe Admin, without
> > any special inside knowledge (that you and I have, Arthur) determine
> > what AT&T space to traceroute to in order to confirm the peering? All
> > of the IPs that I could determine for myself (NS, MX, your email
> > headers, etc.) all either pointed to something Outside, or something
> > 70ms away.
>
> Here's what I see to the public IP you posted:
>
> 2 192.234.141.246 3.860 ms 2.718 ms 3.004 ms
> 3 12.12.1.1 1.133 ms 0.966 ms 1.024 ms
> 4 12.12.2.22 0.929 ms 0.989 ms 1.013 ms
> 5 216.67.90.93 1.232 ms 1.210 ms 1.484 ms
> 6 209.193.51.252 1.570 ms 1.219 ms 1.240 ms
>
> Don't know why you saw anything other. I also don't know why ICMP seems to
> be blocked from your location. ICMP works fine to my IPs coming from a box
> I control off of GCI's network.
>
> I'll look into what's happening on our side (12.12.1.x).
>
> > One or the other of each side of the peering attempts probably also had
> > some large legal/contractual/red-tape hoops to jump through.
>
> My impression is that it's more for political and/or commercial animosity.
> Let's call it what it is.
>
> > So to summarize, these entities peer in Alaska: (doubled up to make
> > patterns more clear):
> >
> > ACS-MTA
> > ACS-GCI
> > ACS-ATT
> > ATT-ACS
> > GCI-ACS
> > MTA-ACS
> >
> > ... and these don't:
> >
> > ATT-GCI
> > ATT-MTA
> > GCI-ATT
> > MTA-ATT
> >
> > Is this correct?
>
> That would be my impression.
>
> --Arthur Corliss
> Live Free or Die
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