[aklug] Re: Alaska peering

On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 02:14:59PM -0800, Royce Williams wrote:
> Royce Williams wrote, on 6/8/2010 2:10 PM:
> > Bruce Hill wrote, on 6/8/2010 1:53 PM:
> >> We live in China. Google's little political stunts don't fool anyone
> >> there. The Great Chinese Firewall blocks YouTube incoming. We can tunnel
> >> to a proxy in Virginia and bypass it easily enough. But then Google (owner
> >> of YouTube) checks your packets (must have flash and java for YouTube) and
> >> when they see the packets bound for China, they block it. So yes, Google,
> >> just like MSN and Yahoo, are evil liars to the core. What else is new?
> >> Just don't buy into their whining about China censorship.
> >
> > I'm not a Google apologist, but is it widely known that Google is doing
> > this, and is it clear that it is happening deliberately (and not some
> > issue somewhere else?)
>
> I forgot to mention why I'm asking.
>
> The proxy in Virginia would have to be two-way. In other words, the
> traffic would look like it was coming streaming from YouTube to
> Virginia. I don't see how Google (or anyone) could detect that the
> traffic was actually going to China.
>
> Royce

The tunnel is from China to Virginia. Then the traffic from Virginia must
validate (or whatever the word) the java and flash back on the originating
box (which is in China). Google then rejects the request from China. If
one does not use java and flash (from anywhere), you don't get the YouTube
from Google.

Apologies if I'm not explaining this correctly. I know what happens, even
if I don't use the correct terminology. With a VPN on the same server in
Virginia, the YouTubes can be viewed in China.

www.cotse.net is the service in Virginia

Bruce

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