[aklug] Re: Alaska peering

What about Alaska Fiberstar? They don't appear to peer with anyone in
State.
Scott

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 09:56, Royce Williams <royce@alaska.net> wrote:

> Arthur Corliss wrote, on 6/8/2010 9:30 AM:
> > On Tue, 8 Jun 2010, Royce Williams wrote:
> >
> >> Arthur Corliss wrote, on 6/8/2010 8:12 AM:
> >>> town. The lack of peering agreements in Alaska is just downright
> asinine.
>
> >> ACS, GCI and MTA all appear to be peering, each no more than 1.5 ms
> apart to/from ACS:
> >
> > AT&T does peer with ACS, but GCI is still 14 hops/57ms away, with MTA in
> a
> > similar position.
>
> Copy that.
>
> Teach me to fish a little, if you would ...how could Joe Admin, without
> any special inside knowledge (that you and I have, Arthur) determine
> what AT&T space to traceroute to in order to confirm the peering? All
> of the IPs that I could determine for myself (NS, MX, your email
> headers, etc.) all either pointed to something Outside, or something
> 70ms away.
>
>
> > It's gotten a little better over the years, but the fact that we're not
> all
> > peering is just downright stupid. The requests have been made, I know
> that,
> > but nothing has come of them.
>
> One or the other of each side of the peering attempts probably also had
> some large legal/contractual/red-tape hoops to jump through.
>
> So to summarize, these entities peer in Alaska: (doubled up to make
> patterns more clear):
>
> ACS-MTA
> ACS-GCI
> ACS-ATT
> ATT-ACS
> GCI-ACS
> MTA-ACS
>
> ... and these don't:
>
> ATT-GCI
> ATT-MTA
> GCI-ATT
> MTA-ATT
>
> Is this correct?
>
> For completeness, we need more data for the following (not doubled up to
> reduce duplication errors, and note that I have not included Borealis,
> as their upstream appears to be AT&T):
>
> MTA-GCI
> Clearwire-[anybody]
>
>
> Folks on MTA, GCI or Clearwire: please post results of traceroutes from
> your space to these IPs, along with what network you're coming from:
>
> 209.112.130.2 (ACS)
> 209.165.131.14 (GCI)
> 216.152.176.1 (MTA)
>
>
> Once we get a couple, everyone else can wave off - no need to send more.
> :-)
>
> Traceroutes from Clearwire should (hopefully) show some infrastructure
> in-state that we could ping to determine network distance.
>
> Looking-glasses, anyone? ;-) I appear to be recreating one, poorly ...
> but this information is useful enough for everyone's general
> troubleshooting purposes that I think it's worth capturing.
>
> What's the status of the AKLUG Wiki? Maybe the results could go there.
>
> Royce
>
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