[aklug] Re: AKLUG and others

If you want to start at the beginning, w3c.org may be as good a place
as any. If you want to avoid a little pain try Amaya or nvu for
editing (or go big and install netbeans or eclipse).

Webreference.com has some nice dhtml tutorials and if you want to
learn perl cgi you can't go wrong with oreilly though I have quite a
list of urls if you want to go in that direction. There STILL R perl
cgi apps out there like hypernews or even an SMS app (we were recently
talking about ASDs purchase of zangle, an SMS app) written in very
nice perl.

You may want to explore SSIs to start, although you may not want to
stop there ;) danger will Robinson....

On the other hand, if you want to learn by example, install drupal
(wordpress, mediawiki) or another lamp app and deconstruct (and
there's mambo, joomla, etc as well all apps under current dev using
php and mysql for CM)

With the battle over html5 upon us, you could look at starting there.
We've just been discussing moodle which uses XHTML, which makes it
possible to do mathml

What else? I put together a project for HS students using perl parsing
and displaying XML, and if you want to get dirt under your
fingernails, that may be of interest as well (ie building your own
schema.)

Lastly, you could explore matters via openoffice. Under the hood it's
just an XML parser and it provides a huge range of options for
learning about transformations.

On Mar 4, 2010, at 8:52 PM, "bruce@slackwarebox.com" <bruce@slackwarebox.com
> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 04:19:17PM -0900, Christopher Howard wrote:
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>> Marc Grober wrote:
>>> Just yanking your chain, Josh ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 4, 2010, at 3:38 PM, "Joshua J. Kugler" <joshua@eeinternet.com
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday 04 March 2010, Marc Grober elucidated thus:
>>>>> But all that aside Jpsh, to mention sane
>>>>> OS like "OS X or Linux" without mentioning unix in your blog, now
>>>>> that is inexcusable ;) didn't someone do a poll of sorts earlier
>>>>> - re
>>>>> cp/m lol - there was life before torvald
>>>> Marc: re-read that section. I was listing the classes I've taken
>>>> and
>>>> the ways in which they helped me. :) Context:
>>>>
>>>> "I've taken the full complement of CS classes to earn my BS, and
>>>> almost
>>>> my MS. There are classes I may never use again. But I'm glad I had
>>>> CS... 321 (Operating systems; especially helps when running on
>>>> "sane"
>>>> systems such as Linux or Mac OS X)"
>>>>
>>>> I've run Linux and Max OS X, personally. I've had no experience
>>>> with
>>>> any other Unix. Nothing against them...just no motivation or
>>>> opportunity at the moment. I'd love to learn BSD, and probably
>>>> Solaris, but I haven't gotten there yet.
>>>>
>>>> But you're right, that paragraph could be construed in a more
>>>> general
>>>> context, in which case, it should include other Unices.
>>>>
>>>> j
>>>>
>>>> --
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>> My twelve cents, as a UAF student and aspiring programmer: Nearly
>> everything I've every learned about programming was learned /
>> outside/ of
>> class. Everything they have tried to teach me about programming per
>> se,
>> I either already knew, or could have learned in twenty minutes
>> through
>> online tutorials.
>>
>> The CS program would be a complete waste of time and money for me
>> except, as Josh mentioned, there are some useful classes that teach
>> you
>> about how a computer works. For example, understanding what goes on
>> in
>> the registers or how the various aspects of memory work can give
>> you a
>> better perspective on how to program well. (And of course, math
>> courses
>> and such are beneficial.)
>>
>> Not to say there aren't neat things you can learn to do in high level
>> courses. I'm just convinced, more than ever, that you don't learn /
>> how
>> to program/ at a university. You have to do that on your own, with
>> lots
>> of trial and error practice.
>>
>> - --
>> Christopher Howard
> If this is covered later in this thread, please overlook me. Though
> I live
> in China, and learned of this list through Christopher Howard via
> LinuxQuestions.org, we are presently in America visiting for the first
> time in three years. And I'm just catching up with this email
> account, and
> reading this particular thread in order.
>
> Speaking of which ... we have a website, and I am presently
> transferring
> the registration and hosting. Now I need to design something and am
> looking to learn HTML. I've seen various HOW-TO articles, but I don't
> particularly want to spend time "building a website" which says
> "Hurrah!
> This is my first website." I'd prefer to actually just learn the
> syntax or
> whatever is appropriate for HTML/XHTML and possibly CSS, since it
> seems
> that a lot of websites today are styled with CSS.
>
> And, for those zealots, I'll only be using ViM to code the site. Any
> good
> tutorials online that you guys would suggest?
>
> I enjoy reading the AKLUG mailing list, and will somehow wade
> through the
> 170+ messages that have accumulated since I last fired up Mutt in
> China a
> few weeks ago. ;) (and now I can't seem to send with Mutt using
> msmtp --
> will have to look into that tomorrow)
>
> Thanks,
> Bruce Hill
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