[aklug] Re: Ubuntu issues

For aptitude create /etc/apt/apt.conf and add:

APT::Install-Recommends “0″;
APT::Install-Suggests “0″;

Turns off both Recommends and Suggests. I was shocked moving from
Debian3 to 4 or 4 to 5 when Debian defaulted to both of those options
being turned on. IMHO one of the worse decisions that Debian could of made.

-Sean

Shane Spencer wrote:
> I use debfoster on all my servers. I can distribute the debfoster
> 'keepers' list to ones I like to be configured similarly and run
> debfoster -F to get things synced up. I use it on my workstations as
> well to minimize the amount of cruft.
>
> I have a document in progress that shows it off a bit at
> http://www.madmanguides.com/wiki/TopicSystemTechnologyDebianInstallationMin=
> imal
> . I use this as my minimal multi purpose server setup. Primarily I
> make sure that 'InstallRecommends' is turned completely off within
> 'apt' and debfoster is used to install and "keep" packages. i know
> that aptitude has a solution for this as well, but I never got it to
> work nearly as well.
>
> - Shane
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Jim Gribbin <jimgribbin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Might get him to try Deborphan, clean and autoremove under current
>> circumstances. Not being a Debian/Ubuntu user, I wasn't familiar with
>> them. Could guess at what "clean" was, basically same as "yum clean" in
>> Fedora. Had to google the others.
>>
>> What the heck is "Delocaliser"? I googled it and everything came up
>> Greek.
>>
>> Jim G
>>
>> On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 14:38 -0900, Lee Brumbaugh wrote:
>>> There are programs like Deborphan or Delocaliser that I believe are simp=
> le enough that you could compile them with your standard make/make install =
> that might be able to clean a little space up. =A0I also recently ran acros=
> s BleachBit (I believe on Sourceforge) that's basically a CCleaner for Linu=
> x that may help. If an apt-get clean/autoremove freezes up as well, you cou=
> ld run a find command in var to see what folder is taking up the most space=
> . =A0Something like a 'find /var --max-depth=3D1' will tell you which folde=
> r has the most data. =A0As Jon was saying if it is a LVM, running vgdisplay=
> will show unallocated space that could be added to var.
>>> Don't know if any of this will help, just things to try off the top of m=
> y head.
>>> Lee
>>>
>>>
>>>> Subject: [aklug] Re: Ubuntu issues
>>>> From: jimgribbin@gmail.com
>>>> To: jonr@destar.net
>>>> CC: aklug@aklug.org
>>>> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:34:25 -0900
>>>>
>>>> I don't think he's up to that task. He's still kind of a newbie. I was
>>>> rather surprised to see that his box had that many variations of OSs
>>>> installed.
>>>>
>>>> I only see him in the coffee shop and I'm not confident enough in my
>>>> abilities to go through that much in that environment. Maybe at
>>>> FriLinux, but not sitting in the coffee shop.
>>>>
>>>> I also still can't figure out how he ended up with a separate partitio=
> n
>>>> for /var. I'm under the impression he just did a default install and
>>>> most distros, anymore, seem to put everything except /boot and swap in=
> 1
>>>> partition.
>>>>
>>>> Speaking of all this, wouldn't this freezing thing be a bug that shoul=
> d
>>>> be dealt with? Maybe by the kernel people?
>>>>
>>>> This is not the 1st time I've seen boxes freeze because /var is full
>>>> (usually log files). It looks like the system is locked in a loop
>>>> waiting for space to open up. Space never opens, so it never returns
>>>> from it's wait loop.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 12:22 -0900, jonr@destar.net wrote:
>>>>> Maybe he could just create a link to the /var/?? directory on a
>>>>> partition with more space. Also, mention to him to use LVM for his
>>>>> partitions and he can increase the size if he needs to. I believe yo=
> u
>>>>> can grow and shrink most filesystems except XFS and JFS, those can b=
> e
>>>>> grown but not shrank.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon
>>>>>
>>>>> Quoting Jim Gribbin <jimgribbin@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn't. It just freezes the box.
>>>>>> I think the problem is, is that for some reason he ended up with a
>>>>>> separate /var partition and it is too small to hold the packages b=
> eing
>>>>>> downloaded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike B. offered to talk to him about talking him through some
>>>>>> troubleshooting, but I think he's going wait until the next releas=
> e and
>>>>>> just do a clean install of (just) 1 version. He must have 4 or 5
>>>>>> variants of Ubuntu installed along with Windows Vista and a Japane=
> se
>>>>>> Windows XP. All on one, multiboot, box..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 12:06 -0700, William Attwood wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tell him to open a Terminal and:
>>>>>>> sudo apt-get update
>>>>>>> sudo apt-get upgrade
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If there are errors, it will prompt him with what to do to clean =
> them up.
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Jim MacDonald <jim@macdonald.org=
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I also think he is talking about the update manager. which is n=
> othing =3D
>>>>>>>> but a GUI for APT. =A0and it's quite possible that his apt file=
> s are =3D
>>>>>>>> corrupt. He should be able to run "apt-get update" from the com=
> mand line =3D
>>>>>>>> and that will tell him what the issue is and probably recommend=
> a way to =3D
>>>>>>>> correct it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jim MacDonald
>>>>>>>> jim@macdonald.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Jim Gribbin wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have an acquaintance using Ubuntu 9.10, so he tells me.
>>>>>>>>> He tells me he is having difficulty updating the box using so=
> mething
>>>>>>>>> called the "download manager". Apparently it causes everythin=
> g to =3D
>>>>>>>> freeze
>>>>>>>>> when he's attempting updates and he ends up power cycling his=
> laptop =3D
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> everything is unresponsive.
>>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>>> I am not an Ubuntu or Debian user and am unfamiliar with the =
> supplied
>>>>>>>>> tools. Would anybody have some pointers I can pass on?
>>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>>> I've been trying to encourage him to show up at a Friday nigh=
> t =3D
>>>>>>>> session.
>>>>>>>>> So far he's a no-show.
>>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>>> Jim G
>>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D20
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