[aklug] Re: Meet an Ubuntu user

Quoting Greg Madden <gomadtroll@acsalaska.net>:

> On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:35:09 -0800
> "Shane R. Spencer" <shane@bogomip.com> wrote:
>
>> jonr@destar.net wrote:
>> > Quoting Damien Hull <damien@linuxninjas.tv>:
>> >
>> >> I know... On older versions of Ubuntu the network manager had
>> >> issues. I never figured out what the "issue" was. The quick
>> >> solution for me was a reboot.
>> >>
>> >> Ubuntu 9.04 seems to have fixed that issue. I just need to
>> >> remember that the wireless card can be turned off. Small switch on
>> >> the side of my Dell inspiron 1525.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Is Network Manager a frontend for wpa_supplicant?
>> >
>> > Jon
>> >
>> Yup. It runs wpa_supplicant and makes little config files in
>> temporary directories for it to use. It stores network and passkey
>> information in the gnome password manager.
>>
>> That said. It's really easy to just plain use wpa_supplicant or
>> configure it from /etc/network/interfaces.
>>
>> I don't have network manager on any of my machines.. it's the first
>> thing to go when I install a gnome desktop. CPU hungry, slow, it
>> waits too long between configuration phases. I dislikes it, a
>> not-to-rare sentiment.
>>
>> - Shane
>
> +1,
>
> I don't use Gnome, but network manager, at least on the Debian User
> list, doesn't get much love .I have a vm of debian testing that is
> standard, Gnome desktop, the network manager ALWAYS shows the hard
> wired connection as disabled. This causes issues with apps that look to
> network manager to see if a connection is available.
>
> I can appreciate the attraction of all the auto-magic stuff, but,
> every time I have an issue I find my self at the command line, if I had
> started there I would have saved all kinds of frustration/time.
>
> I use WindowMaker, setup so I can use the keyboard for most tasks.
> Workstations are a different beast than roaming laptops though.
> --
> Peace
>
>
>
> Greg Madden
> ---------

The real problem is brain dead developers relying on network manager
to give them a status on the interface, rather than directly querying
it with the tools that have been around for a hundred years....or less.

Jon

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Received on Thu Sep 24 14:20:39 2009