[aklug] Fwd: Can you use the Debian network install cd with the DVD/CD collection?

Your right Jim, here it is back on the list. Think I have an idea what I
need to do-will keep the group apprised of course. Thanks for the help
anyhow. B
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From: Jim Gribbin <jimgribbin@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [aklug] Can you use the Debian network install cd with the
DVD/CD collection?
To: crowe.robert@gmail.com, ", AKLUG" <aklug@aklug.org>

You should move this back to the AKLUG list. Your questions are getting
a little to Debian specific for me :-)

We like to keep these kinds of things on the list so others can learn
and contribute.

And...

I personally don't use Debian, or anything Debian related.
Fedora/RedHat, SuSE, and Gentoo are more what I gravitate to. I can make
do with Debian in a pinch, I just prefer not to.

Robert Crowe wrote:
> My original intention (still is) was to selectively build a system the
> way I wanted it using Debian. I've never done it using the Debian
> Network Installer-I've used Mint for a couple of years and Mepis has
> been my poison lately. While using Mint I scored the whole repository
> for Ubuntu 7.04. The advantages could not be quantified enough: no
> network needed to add software, no download times (not an issue with
> broadband,) no bandwidth costs. I wanted something similar but with
> Debian. The concept of starting out with a basic system and building
> it the way you wanted instead of a prepackaged distro where you trim
> the fat or switch out things with stuff you like does have it's
> appeal. That was where the original question came into play.
>
> Now you asked if I had access to the DVD/CD collection why not just
> install from them? I'm wondering-can you choose your own graphical
> boot loader (xdm) gui (xfce core only) and manually install only
> chosen apps with the Etch 4.04 DVD selection? I used to be intimidated
> a couple years ago with something simple like editing the xorg.conf
> file much less working with a base debian system than adding x and so
> on-now my confidance (and skill level apparently) has risen enough
> where I want to take that on. Essentially I want to do with the DVD's
> what you would do with the network installer cd. Sorry for the
> confusion, any advice would help. B
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Jim Gribbin <jimgribbin@gmail.com
> <mailto:jimgribbin@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I'm even more lost now, but I'm not going to worry about it.
>
> It sounds like you have figured out what it is you're looking for.
>
> Robert Crowe wrote:
> > Now THIS
> <http://www.mepislovers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11077> is
> > what I was looking for! That is what I was trying to do, install a
> > basic system. I've been using Mepis 7.0 since last May, even for my
> > work. I detest Networkmanager, it is horrible on the laptop (horror
> > stories upon request) and I wound up removing it for Wicd. It is a
> > great workhorse and stability has been my monkey.
> >
> > I used AntiX 7.0 all last winter on a Itronix Gobook with a 850
> mhz p3
> > and 250mb ram flawlessly-looking to do something similar on my Dell
> > 1420n (where Mepis 7.0 currently resides) with the same goal.
> >
> > Before I found the above link I was looking at a net install with
> > lenny. Funny how googling can change your whole direction...
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Jim Gribbin
> <jimgribbin@gmail.com <mailto:jimgribbin@gmail.com>
> > <mailto:jimgribbin@gmail.com <mailto:jimgribbin@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Robert Crowe wrote:
> > > Howdy,
> > > I was wondering if it was possible to to use the Debian
> network
> > install cd
> > > to build a base system from the Debian DVD/CD collection?
> > >
> > Not quite following you. It is possible to build a Debian,
> or any
> > Linux
> > system, box from DVDs or CDs on a nearby computer.
> >
> > If you have access to the Debian DVD/CD collection and are
> apparently
> > able to boot the network install CD, why not install from the
> > collection?
> >
> > If you need access to the Debian DVD/CD collection, you
> could also
> > show
> > up for one of the Friday Night sessions. I think there is
> often a
> > portable Debian/Ubuntu mirror there for local network installs.
> >
> > Maybe you're trying to do a network install from a nearby
> computer
> > with
> > the Debian install ISO loopback mounted? Is your laptop CD
> only and
> > you're trying to work with an install DVD? Is your laptop
> able to boot
> > from CD?
> > > 1) It would save bandwidth for those paying for it (like
> all of
> > us) and on
> > > the other end dialup is not an option due to time and obvious
> > limitations.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2) Some laptops do not come with a pcmcia slot needed to
> bypass
> > the ethernet
> > > issue specifically the lack of onboard wlan support from the
> > network install
> > > disc
> > >
> > If the only networking you have available is a wireless that
> is not
> > natively supported (needs Ndiswrapper?), you may need to
> borrow or
> > buy a
> > network card that is natively supported.
> > >
> > >
> > > 3) The ownership and customization of such a system cannot be
> > underrated.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This question came to me while perusing the AntiX forum and
> > reading about
> > > various customizations using the AntiX 7.5 "base."
> > >
> > > I found THIS
> <http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/432>
> > article
> > > while googling for this question which points me in the right
> > direction but
> > > doesn't quite answer the question.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "Nothing in the universe can travel at the speed of light, they say,
> > forgetful of the shadow's speed."
> >
> > "If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do
> > stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions?"
> >
> > Powered by Mepis 7.0 Linux-never phear the Penguin ;)
>
>
>
>
> --
> "Nothing in the universe can travel at the speed of light, they say,
> forgetful of the shadow's speed."
>
> "If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do
> stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions?"
>
> Powered by Mepis 7.0 Linux-never phear the Penguin ;)

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