Subject: Re: SCO vs GNU/Linux
From: minion (minion@mtaonline.net)
Date: Mon May 19 2003 - 14:23:23 AKDT
Does it really matter? Whether or not M$ wins in court is
irrlevelent. I will still use linux. I suspect that most of you
will still use linux whether it be desktop or server or both. I have
one box that run windoze as a game machine, but I know where the cd's
are kept and if M$ does'nt stop it's foolishness then it to will
have linux on it just like the rest. I would really like to see what
would happen to the internet if M$ tried to produce that massive a
changeover. This is just another ploy of those idiots in redmond to
scare those who are scarable, sort of like singing to the M$ choir of
fear.
To use an old quote "there is nothing to fear but fear itself". If
there is propriatary code in the kernel, I'm pretty sure that Mr.'s
Torvold and Cox would have a patch to change it long before this would
get to trial and appeal.
And if someone comes up with a simple desktop, all networks that I
build will have linux as servers and desktops. What are they going to
do put 20m people in jail for not paying the M$ fine (excuse me license)?
david
Jan Zumwalt wrote:
>This is not meant to be a flame or controversial, but I believe your legal
>authority is a might bit uninformed.
>
>MS has been successfully sued by Digital for stealing code for DOS. MS has
>been successfully sued for copying certain aspects of Word Perfect. Logitech
>successfully sued MS for patent infringement on it's mouse. MS was
>successfully sued for copyright infringements for certain aspects of
>Outlook.
>
>If your attorneys opinion was truly universal then we would have all stopped
>using MS products in 1985.
>JZ
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: aklug-bounce@aklug.org [mailto:aklug-bounce@aklug.org]On Behalf Of
>Damien Hull
>Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 12:25 PM
>To: Greg Madden
>Cc: aklug@aklug.org
>Subject: Re: SCO vs GNU/Linux
>
>
>Don't know if you know this but FreeBSD is older then Linux. The reason
>more people use Linux and not FreeBSD is because AT&T sued them. They
>claimed that FreeBSD contained AT&T code.
>
>>From what I've read on the story FreeBSD did have some AT&T code. In the
>end the FreeBSD team took out the code and put in their own.
>
>The reason AT&T was able to do this was because they could point to a
>specific item. FreeBSD had code from the original BSD distribution that
>AT&T funded. They did not however make the claim that FreeBSD could not
>have been created with out the help of AT&T and the BSD operating
>system.
>
>SCO needs to point to specific items. If they can't then the lawsuit
>means nothing.
>
>
>On Mon, 2003-05-19 at 11:07, Greg Madden wrote:
>
>>This list has been pretty quiet concerning the SCO lawsuit. It seems
>>that SCO's strategy is clarifying as time passes. The following quote is
>>from a small shop that supports/sell Linux boxes, and has stopped using
>>Linux. It could take years to settle this lawsuit.Anyone formatting
>>their Linux hard drives :)
>>
>>
>>"No, it is not good. I may have been at least partly wrong about what
>>the whole thing is about. I was just told Saturday morning that we no
>>longer support linux, and not because of our own choice but because of
>>possible liability issues. And even worse, according to the lawyer, we
>>need to "get rid" of our previous linux customers too, to obsolve
>>ourself from past liabilities in case something is found in linux that
>>is either copyrighted, patented, or is proprietary property of somebody
>>else. Apparently, when it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt where
>>the linux code comes from and that it is all legitimate, then it is ok
>>to support and sell it again. I am not sure how companies like Redhat
>>are handling the whole thing, but that is what we have done (are
>>doing). For those customers that want to stay with linux servers we
>>can only recommend that they seek help from online resources such as
>>this list. I have much unpleasant work to do this coming week as there
>>is going to be alot of questions.
>>Jim"
>>
>>--
>>Greg Madden
>>Precision Air Balance, Inc.
>>Phone: 907-276-0461
>>email: pabi@gci.net
>>
>>
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>Damien Hull
>Network Administrator
>www.digitaloverload.net
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