Subject: RE: Napsterized
From: Anthony Valentine (amv@akvalentine.com)
Date: Tue Jul 16 2002 - 22:32:18 AKDT
I don't think that a p2p network itself is illegal, it's just the
distribution of copyrighted material that is illegal, no matter how you
do it.
The *IAA wouldn't (shouldn't anyway) have a problem with it if all that
it was used for is distribution of non-copyrighted material, for
example, gpl'd software.
Anthony
On Tue, 2002-07-16 at 21:39, stephen king wrote:
>
> In a word...yes. Much as I despise the money-grubbin' yadda-yaddas at =
> RIAA et al, their argument has a core of hard truth: it is illegal to =
> copy the "intellectual property" of others...songs, stories, even HTML =
> code...without their permission. In the Linux community that is negated =
> by the fact that the license normally states something about "freely =
> distribute"...a blanket pre-authorization. Let's face it...were I the =
> one who made my living writing and performing songs I'd want to be able =
> to do that without people taking without paying (not, necessarily, that =
> I'd demand eight figures a year out of you or the money to send my =
> executives on "talent searches" to the Bahamas...but that's not really =
> the point). Basically, if you created it, it's yours to do with as you =
> like (to a large extent, anyways); if you did not create it, it's not =
> yours. If you bought it, there's an argument that I kind of agree with =
> that you should be able to make backup copies or transfer to other media =
> for your own enjoyment...but that doesn't include setting up a server to =
> distribute it to others to enjoy as well.
>
> The p2p system, at its core, is a violation of the copyright laws, I =
> believe. The reason folks like Morpheus et al get away with it is that =
> nobody can prove they have control over the "data" which is shared, so =
> effectively they get a "it's not our fault!" argument out of it. Were =
> you to download a copyrighted song from a p2p system it would be you =
> breaking the law, not them. You setting up an ftp/ssh/web site doesn't =
> have the same protection, though, and your only real protection from the =
> RIAA hounds would be in your obscurity. These days that's a chancy =
> thing to bank on (though one could add not much chancier than the stock =
> market, eh? <grin>).
>
> Stephen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Elkins [mailto:i-robot@gci.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 9:24 PM
> To: AKLUG
> Subject: Napsterized
>
>
>
> As some may know or not know, AudioGalaxy has been fragged. All these=20
> p2p sites are getting canned....I got to thinking....Why exactly are=20
> these sites going down? Is it all about copyrighted media?
> So, would it be wrong for us Linux users to ssh into a server and copy=20
> files? It would be as simple as creating (and securing) a 'guest'=20
> account, and stashing mp3's ect. there. One would then go into an IRC=20
> that matches their genre of music/videos and get an IP/account/passwd.
> Might that be illegal?
>
> Adam
>
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