RE: DSL


Subject: RE: DSL
From: W.D.McKinney (deem@wdm.com)
Date: Fri May 03 2002 - 08:08:04 AKDT


Who ever asked if this was commercial, did I miss that point ?
Maybe I was extended liberty :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: aklug-bounce@aklug.org [mailto:aklug-bounce@aklug.org]On Behalf Of
Mike Tibor
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:54 PM
To: aklug@aklug.org
Subject: RE: DSL

On Thu, 2 May 2002, W.D.McKinney wrote:

>
> I run a static IP on ACS dsl, and a server and no problems. Chris is
> mis-informed.

Well, until you try to sell that hunting rifle gathering dust in the
corner of your closet--from https://mercury.acsalaska.net/acs/toc.htm:

  Examples of prohibited illegal conduct are:

     · Advertising a lottery, ammunition, firearms, tobacco,
       alcohol, illegal drugs and drug-related paraphernalia

According ACS, that's *illegal conduct* and grounds for dropping you
immediately! Note that they already have another paragraph on that same
page addressing any illegal activity. I wonder how ACS comes to the
conclusion that advertising a firearm or ammunition for sale on the
Internet is illegal?

Also on that page:

==
14. Restrictions

The PIPE DSL prices are set much lower than SmartNet business services as
PIPE DSL customers are expected to use the service for primarily personal
and recreational purposes. PIPE DSL customers agree not to run any
commercial servers in conjunction with the Services, including but not
limited to, Web, game, Electronic Mail, NAT, DHCP and DNS servers. Under
no circumstances may any PIPE DSL customer run a streaming audio/video
server, "shout-cast" station, MP3 or other audio or video download area
with the PIPE DSL service. In the event any PIPE DSL customer attempts to
utilize a commercial or any above-mentioned server on the network, or if
Customer's personal servers generate more than average amounts of traffic
and/or bandwidth usage, ACS Internet may, at its sole discretion, increase
the fees associated with the Services, or terminate the Services.
==

So, basically you just can't run any COMMERCIAL services via their DSL.
In addition, if the services you do run generate traffic that's above the
average of all DSL accounts, ACS reserves the right to jack your rates.

The real kicker is that according to that page, these terms and conditions
specifically apply to EVERY ACS customer, businesses included:

==
This document ("Terms & Conditions" or "Agreement") explains the terms and
conditions that apply to the use of an ACS Internet account. Except as
otherwise stated, these terms and conditions apply to every individual or
entity subscribing to an ACS Internet account. Hereinafter, an individual
or entity subscribing to an ACS Internet account will be referred to as
"you" or "Customer". [...]
==

Now, all that said, I can't believe that ACS would disconnect a home user
for running a website that, for example, advertises computer and/or
network services. Of course, maybe I'm wrong--I haven't been very fond of
ACS since about the time they took over IAI and quite a few others.

Mike

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