Re: GCI and PEER Network


Subject: Re: GCI and PEER Network
From: Jim Courtney (courtney@ieee.org)
Date: Tue Dec 18 2001 - 12:59:34 AKST


Not only that, but ISP's have to buy more bandwidth on the fiber when their
across-town packets are forced down to Seattle and back. This is a bad
situation (for consumers, not GCI) that the marketplace has not yet
addressed. Right now it's mostly game servers - later it will be local phone
service that will take a beating with latency if you're not in the
'big-digital-mondo-cable-bundle' plan. If you have most of the subscribers,
you win. One day someone else will figure out a way to capitalize on this
situation and even things out.

On Tuesday 18 December 2001 09:36 am, jsaam@mcc-cpa.com wrote:
> Yeah I suppose my post was a little over-done.. I was just mad. I can see
> how ISP's in the lower 48 would not want to do it, but they don't "have" to
> do it. The people down there don't have to "hop" quite as far as we have
> to when forced to route through Seattle.
>
> It just plain sux. So I guess it's pick and choose your ISP -- wether you
> want ACS Customers to use your server, or GCI -- hehe.. Why can't they all
> just get along?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leif Sawyer [mailto:lsawyer@gci.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:04 AM
> To: Jon Saam
> Subject: RE: GCI and PEER Network
>
>
> Well, My take on it would be that it's not in a business's best interest.
> This has been hashed over and rehashed so many times before -- you might
> want to check the archives.
>
> But the summary of it all boils down to the ISP mentality of "Make them
> come to us if they want our content" which EVERY ISP has. There's just no
> rational business logic to support a local peering point.
>
> My opinion's, not my employers.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jsaam@mcc-cpa.com [mailto:jsaam@mcc-cpa.com]
> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:30 PM
> > To: aklug@aklug.org
> > Subject: GCI and PEER Network
> >
> >
> > A little off subject, but important topic --
> >
> > Anyone know why GCI doesn't want to allow a Peer Network (local loop)
> > between local ISP's? I'm kinda pissed now that I can't get a decent
> > ping on my server here (hosted via t-1 by TelAlaska) when I'm @ home
> > on cable. Ha..
> > in fact, I can set a computer on the cable modem, right next
> > to the computer
> > on the T-1, and I still get 200+ pings.. hehe.. that totally sux :)
> >
> > Comments? <also, check out GCI forum for posts related to this>
> >
> > Jon



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