Mike, I sent one message to aklug at aklug.org, which you said you received. It never showed up in the archives, I never received a copy either. My last message receivede was on 1/31/2017. message id: <62aa2285-3701-2629-22a0-34583dfc4faa at gci.net> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 thank you -- Greg M