[aklug] Re: OT DNS and Domain Registration question

And I don't mean to imply that all webheads are toads. It's often a dirty,
complex, thankless job ... and what I've done of it really opened my eyes.
:-)

Royce

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Royce Williams <royce@tycho.org> wrote:

> Mike B. said it well -- short and sweet. But I still want to rant a bit.
> :-)
>
> I concur 100% that there is *zero* technical reason for either a web
> designer or web developer (two different types of geek) to have
> administrative control over the domain itself. It sometimes happens, but
> it is by no means technically necessary. The power to push files to the
> server, change server configuration, and even make DNS moves/adds/changes
> can all be delegated without any change to the domain registration itself.
>
> In fact, if they continue to insist that there is a technical requirement,
> then they should have no problem explaining it *in writing*, in precise
> technical terms. And if they think that it's too technical for you to
> understand, tell them that the collective AKLUG "we" would be more than
> happy to translate. ;-)
>
> The fact that they either 1) think that they have to have it, or 2) want
> to convince you that they do ... is a very, very bad sign either way.
>
> I've seen web toads do this so that they can squat on domains -- to
> basically extort payment from non-technical business owners. But they
> shouldn't need to. The terms of the contract should clearly outline
> deliverables and SLAs, so that everyone is clear on what "done" looks like,
> so that the path to payment is clear.
>
> Royce
>
>
> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 2:43 PM, James <marblemunkey@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The answer to 1 is no, there is no technical reason, it's either for
>> control or for lack of competence.
>>
>> If it's for control that's going to depends on what the contract is for:
>> if the developer is just doing design and isn't providing hosting and
>> ongoing support services, then its inappropriate. If they are providing
>> those services, it may be appropriate, but you'll want to make sure that
>> how and when the host would transfer the domain back to the client was
>> spelled out.
>>
>> It could also very that the designer lacks the competence to set their
>> own hosts file or transfer the designed site to a different (virtual) host,
>> in which case you have different problems.
>>
>> - James Gibson
>> On May 7, 2014 6:12 PM, "JP" <jp@jptechnical.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a client that is hiring a new developer to design a new website.
>>> However, the new developer is demanding that the domain be transferred, and
>>> refuses to allow me (the contracted IT person for the client) to set dns
>>> records to point to their services.
>>>
>>> I have gotten the advice from several colleagues and friends in the
>>> industry, but I would like to get some non-biased replies. I will not state
>>> my opinion either way.
>>>
>>> The crux of the question is this:
>>>
>>> 1. Is there any technical reason why a web developer would require a
>>> domain be transferred to their account to do website design? Specifically,
>>> design a website and promote it with various SEO and submission practices.
>>>
>>> 2. What is the risk of the client transferring the domain from the
>>> current registrar reseller, with whom they have an established
>>> relationship, when the current registrar reseller has volunteered to make
>>> any DNS changes the developer requires?
>>>
>>> Thanks, I hope this doesn't ruffle any feathers with the off-topic-ness.
>>> BTW, the current host is Linux, and I am sending this email from a linux
>>> laptop, if that satisfies ;-)
>>>
>>> _____ _____
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>>> /\ \_\ \ \ \/
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>>>
>>> 907-748-2200JP Technical <http://www.jptechnical.com/>helpdesk@jptechnical.com
>>>
>>>
>

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