On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Royce Williams <royce@tycho.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Arthur Corliss <acorliss@nevaeh-linux.org
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2013, Greg Schmitz wrote:
>>
>> Todays news:
>>> XKeyscore: NSA tool collects 'nearly everything a user does on the
>>> internet'
>>> http://www.theguardian.com/**world/2013/jul/31/nsa-top-**
>>> secret-program-online-data<http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/31/nsa-top-secret-program-online-data>
>>>
>>> Live Free or Die!
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, I saw that. And, of course, no one will remember this in the next
>> election, and leave the same clowns in that allowed this to happen. We
>> get
>> what we deserve. :-P
>
>
> Actually, I suspect that this would continue, regardless of who is elected.
>
> Kissinger told Daniel Ellsberg that once you get inside and they can tell
> you what's really going on, your whole perspective changes. This isn't a
> long read, but it's really interesting, and has broad implications for all
> sorts of security stuff (so it's not too-terribly off-topic, I guess?):
>
>
> http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2010/02/daniel-ellsberg-limitations-knowledge
>
> I'm not advocating that it's good or an excuse for illegality or anything,
> but I did find this tidbit to be quite thought-provoking.
>
>
Correction: it was Ellsberg who told this to Kissinger.
Royce
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