[aklug] Re: really tiny text editor with emulation

On 04/17/2013 08:12 PM, Royce Williams wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Christopher Howard
> <christopher.howard@frigidcode.com
> <mailto:christopher.howard@frigidcode.com>> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> I can fly editing circles around everyone I know who uses Vim. Can do
> stuff in seconds with macros, shortcuts, and functions that takes them
> two or three minutes of laborious typing. And if I forget how to do
> anything, I'm usually only takes me about 30 seconds to find out how to
> do it via the built in reference manual. And I like the fact that I can
> customize just about any behavior through the customize variable
> interface.
>
>
> Ooh! Religious war! ;-)
>
> So what you're saying is ... when paired up with someone who doesn't
> know about vim's macros and shortcuts, and doesn't know how to use vim's
> built-in reference manual ... Emacs wins? Doesn't sound like a fair
> fight to me!
>
> In other words: if you're watching someone doing 30 seconds of laborious
> typing with vim, the problem isn't vim.
>
> Royce

Heh heh. My flame post was already quite long, so I didn't add the
caveat: "But these people probably don't know Emacs as well as I know
Vim, so it wasn't a fair fight." That's probably true. But the point of
my last post wasn't "Vim is a bad editor" (which I never said). The
point was that Emacs IS a good editor (contrary to the jokes made by the
people who don't use it.)

Now, I think it might be pretty fun to have some kind of competition
between our best Emacs guru and our best Vim guru, and see who is
faster. Though, creating a set of non-biased challenges might be difficult.

My crack about "does anybody still use Vim" was rather tongue-in-cheek,
because Vim is still a more popular editor choice than Emacs, according
to the polls I have seen. (Though, I doubt somewhat the reliability of
those polls, owing to method and location.)

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