[aklug] Re: OT:? CMS at ASD

No, no, no - lol - not drupal .... but Drupal is a close comparison
(see cmsmatch URL provided earlier) so the question is, why buy into
terminalfour for $140K instead of drupal for..... $00000

But yes, its all about burning those dollars ;=}

On 2/21/11 5:59 PM, Scott Carnahan wrote:
> Wait, now I feel really stupid. This is Drupal? They are going to pay =
> $140k+ for a proprietary version of Drupal when half the schools already =
> run Drupal in some form locally on site? For real? At Highland we had =
> three different Drupal systems running, one for kids, one for teachers =
> and one open to everyone at one point.
>
> Next year, can I just take my tax dollars and burn them in a fire so I =
> can at least enjoy the pretty flames when it all gets wasted?
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc Grober [mailto:marc@interak.com]=20
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 5:52 PM
> To: aklug@aklug.org
> Subject: [aklug] Re: OT:? CMS at ASD
>
> Scott, your figures would be off, as ASD will still pay someone $20K+
> to manage the CMS locally... the $140K is for licensing and maintenance
> and corporate support only..... And it does not include content
> management, just structural management.
>
> So, yes, if we divide the $140K by 5 and add $20K I would be happy to
> manage Drupal to do the same thing.... and have done the equivalent in
> the past - lol. Thats about $48K/yr which is damn good pay for a half
> time job ;=3D} (I think I was paid some $50K plus benefits to provide =
> the
> equivalent service and it took a good deal less than 20 hours a week... =
> )
>
> I did post to the ASD facebook site this comparison:
> http://www.cmsmatch.com/compare/content-management-systems/1191%201068%20=
> 11%20787
>
>
> And this is for the District, Jim.... The unions are quite a ways from
> being able to handle any substantive web 2.0 technology - lol - AEA
> still freaked out by Lyris ;=3D} The IT BRT argued against zangle and =
> for
> investing in open software expertise before ASD purchase zangle, and the
> mess that zangle currently is was largely predicted by the BRT.
>
>
>
> On 2/21/11 5:35 PM, Scott Carnahan wrote:
>> So, since I have not replyed in a long time...
>> =20
>> How many folks on this list would be willing, for only the published =
> =3D
>> amount that the school district is going to pay ($140,423), to set =
> this =3D
>> up and be the admin for ASD using nothing but open source?=3D20
>> =20
>> I am not really up on CMS, but from chatting with a few folks about =
> this =3D
>> I began to wonder how many of us would be willing, and could actually =
> do =3D
>> this, and would be willing to do it for $23,403 (approx) a year for 6 =
> =3D
>> years.
>> =20
>> Scott
>> =20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Gribbin [mailto:jimgribbin@gmail.com]=3D20
>> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 4:07 PM
>> To: aklug@aklug.org
>> Subject: [aklug] Re: OT:? CMS at ASD
>> =20
>> So. Are we buying this for the school district or the union?
>> =20
>> I looked at their website. Most of their case studies ar for
>> universities, large corporations, and the government sector. They do
>> have one for haw they can help your union's organization.
>> =20
>> I saw nothing about schools or school districts, let alone how it can
>> help students.
>> =20
>> Jim G
>> =20
>> On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 09:06 -0900, Marc Grober wrote:
>>> Chatting with Mike Fleckenstein at ASD about issues with iCal
>>> subscriptions to ASD's WebEvent installation he mentioned that ASD
>>> hadn't upgraded WebEvent because they were going to a new CMS with
>>> calendar. Sniffing about I discovered that ASD had approved a =3D
>> contract
>>> for CMS in September. While I thought it unfortunate that ASD chose
>>> TerminalFour for its new CMS, I didn't realize just how unfortunate =
> it
>>> was when taken in liht of the argued budget shortfalls..... $140,000 =
> =3D
>> or
>>> five years. Why oh why-o? Take a gander at the technical =
> requirements.
>>> =3D20
>>> ******************
>>> =3D20
>>> 9. ASD Memorandum #17 =3DE2=3D80=3D93 Award of Contract: Web Content =
> =3D
>> Management System
>>> It is the Administration=3DE2=3D80=3D99s recommendation that the =
> School =3D
>> Board approve
>>> and authorize the Superintendent to award a contract to TerminalFour =
> =3D
>> to
>>> provide a Web Content Management System (CMS) as follows: =3D
>> Implementation
>>> costs and software license in the amount of $80,738 for FY 2010-2011;
>>> maintenance and support renewal in the amount of $11,937 for FY
>>> 2011-2012; maintenance and support renewal in the amount of $11,937 =
> =3D
>> for
>>> FY 2012-2013; maintenance and support renewal in the amount of =
> $11,937
>>> for FY 2013-2014; maintenance and support renewal in the amount of
>>> $11,937 for FY 2014-2015, and maintenance and support renewal in the
>>> amount of $11,937 for FY 2015-2016 for a total contract amount of
>>> $140,423.
>>> =3D20
>>> See, Board Minutes for September 13, 2010
>>> =3D
>> =
> http://www.asdk12.org/School_Board/Archives/2010-2011/Minutes/20100913R.p=
> =3D
>> df
>>> approving Memorandum 17 on Agenda for September 13, 2010.
>>> =3D
>> =
> http://www.asdk12.org/School_Board/Archives/2010-2011/20100913/H09M017.pd=
> =3D
>> f
>>> based upon RFP2009-605 which requires in pertinent part.....
>>> =3D20
>>> Technical requirements
>>> 1) Uses Active Directory for authentication and authorization.
>>> 2) Supports a testing/staging and production server environment with
>>> sync capability between the tiers.
>>> 3) Robust API for custom development.
>>> 4) SIF 2.0 compliant with preference for certification.
>>> 5) Compliant with SSL, preference for selective SSL for portions of
>>> content.
>>> 6) Back-up utility with ability to bring the system back to a =3D
>> particular
>>> point in time.
>>> 7) To be hosted on Anchorage School District servers in the following
>>> preferred environment:
>>> i. Windows 2003/2008 64-bit
>>> ii. ASP.net 2.0 and 3.5
>>> iii. IIS 6+
>>> iv. SQL server 2005/2008
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