[aklug] Re: Google Evil? Was: Re: I'm an Android

From: Thomas Plastino Martin <tenach@gmail.com>
Date: Fri Jul 23 2010 - 15:03:28 AKDT

That is why I stopped using gnupg... I kept losing my key.
Thomas Plastino Martin
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On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Christopher Kunzler <ckunzler@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Christopher Howard
> <choward@indicium.us> wrote:
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> > On 07/23/10 03:48, Christopher Kunzler wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Christopher Howard <
> choward@indicium.us=
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Somebody tell me if this is OT. But it seems very related to me:
> >>>
> >>> I don't understand the Google bashing. Google has probably done more
> fo=
> r
> >>> open source than any company on the planet, depending on the measuring
> >>> stick you use, of course. Google has supported Google Summer of Code
> fo=
> r
> >>> years. Google pays 85% of the expenses of the Mozilla foundation, and
> i=
> s
> >>> therefore pretty much responsible for giving us the only truly
> >>> marketable open-source browser (outside of Google Chrome). Google's
> >>> flagship mobile OS -- Android -- is released almost entirely under the
> >>> Apache license. Google gave us Google Apps which, outside of
> OpenOffice=
> ,
> >>> has been pretty much the only successful crack in the Microsoft Office
> >>> market.
> >>>
> >>> Outside of their search technology, virtually every software project
> >>> they've every championed (that I know of) has either been an open
> sourc=
> e
> >>> project or has advanced open standards in some way.
> >>>
> >>> I hear some people bash Google over privacy concerns. I'm not
> >>> unilaterally standing behind them, and maybe you can educate us better
> >>> on that. But there is no law saying that you have to send search
> querie=
> s
> >>> over an unencrypted connection to Google, in order to get a free
> >>> response back. And Gmail is a free e-mail service provided to almost
> 20=
> 0
> >>> million people. Can we really expect Google to exhaust their company
> >>> savings defending client privacy when some agency comes along demanding
> >>> particular information?
> >>>
> >>> - --
> >>> Christopher Howard
> >>> frigidcode.com
> >>> theologia.indicium.us
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> >>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/
> >>>
> >>
> >> I love Google--Google is one of the few big corporations I don't
> >> believe to be evil. =A0 However I can understand why some have concerns.
> >> =A0Google has access to a crazy amount of information.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Well, sure they do... every company and publisher on the planet wants
> > them to. They are a web search company, crawling the web like Yahoo and
> > Alexa and anyone else can freely.
> >
>
> Good point. They also have all the search data people enter.
>
> > Now, there is the question of people storing their entire life's worth
> > of personal e-mail communication on a server they haven't paid for or
> > have no control over. But if we all really cared about that, we could
> > just PGP encrypt our e-mails and do the decryption locally. (That way,
> > you can store the e-mails on any server you wanted and only you would be
> > able to read them.)
> >
> > - --
>
>
> Good idea and convincing pitch. I think I might start doing that
> then. How do you keep your keys safe? I'm afraid I'd encrypt stuff
> then lose the ability to open my email.
>
>
>
>
> --=20
> Chris Kunzler
> ckunzler@gmail.com
> (262) 586-9537
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