[aklug] Re: Veryvery Off-Topic: Terry Childs jury reached verdict

Don't ask don't tell.

On 04/29/2010 02:32 PM, Christopher Howard wrote:
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> On 04/29/2010 01:19 PM, Lee wrote:
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>> This is the case of the SF netadmin that refused to give valid 'keys to the kingdom'
>> passwords to a room full of random people, including some on speakerphone and police
>> waiting outside.
>>
>> http://www.ktvu.com/news/23283217/detail.html
>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/04/28/BA4V1D5Q22.DTL&type=printable
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>> Besides the usual slashdot commentary dreck, there's also some discussion and Q&A by
>> someone who alleges he was on the jury:
>>
>> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/04/27/2245223/Terry-Childs-Found-Guilty?art_pos=17&art_pos=17
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>> One of the more disturbing comments is out of the sfgate link:
>>
>> "The jury deliberated for several days before a lone holdout against conviction was
>> removed from the panel, for reasons that were not disclosed. After an alternate was put
>> in that juror's place, the panel started over and reached a decision in a matter of hours."
>>
>> Anyway,
>>
>> I'm not sure what I think about this, except that it was just a huge tragedy of bonehead
>> errors by all involved, including Mr. Childs. But the greater errors were by everyone
>> else, of which only Mr. Childs is and will be punished.
>>
>> A couple of points that need clarifying
>>
>> 1. Apparently Mr. Childs was still employed by the City at the time of these events.
>> Lots of writeups had these events happening after his dismissal.
>>
>> 2. Mr. Childs first lied and gave 'erroneous' passwords, instead of just refusing
>> outright as has otherwise been reported.
>>
>> 3. The CSF administration did not follow their own procedures from start to finish, and
>> indeed the on-sites showed they didn't have a clue (or didn't care) what those were.
>>
>> My own take: Mr. Childs deliberately turned it into a pissing contest and so caused a
>> lot of his own grief. Indeed, there is some evidence that Mr. Childs followed written
>> policy, but with some malice aforethought. But if the CSF management had had an effin
>> brain between them, this would have just been another bad day at work, and Mr. Childs
>> would be working somewhere else. Me, as soon as I saw the police and HR, I'd have
>> insisted on having my attorney draft up a release. If that was not doable...well, I'd
>> have cobbled one up right there, had everyone there sign and date it, and hoped for the
>> best then gone straight for the attorney. But hopefully I'd be smart enough and aware
>> enough of the political situations not to find myself in that position in the first place.
>>
>> Anyway, I'd be interested in the take on some of you folks with 'keys to the kingdom'
>> access and responsibilities. Feel free to reply off list.
>>
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> Is this really off-topic? I'm not familiar with the case, but I read
> through the ktvu link. It sounds like an interesting subject: legal
> ramifications of password sharing and permissions hierarchies. As
> someone at the beginning of his I.T. career, I'd be interested to hear
> the comments of people on this list.
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