[aklug] Re: AKLUG and others

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bruce@slackwarebox.com wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 04:19:17PM -0900, Christopher Howard wrote:
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>> Marc Grober wrote:
>>> Just yanking your chain, Josh ;)
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 4, 2010, at 3:38 PM, "Joshua J. Kugler" <joshua@eeinternet.com>Â
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday 04 March 2010, Marc Grober elucidated thus:
>>>>> But all that aside Jpsh, to mention sane
>>>>> OS like "OS X or Linux" without mentioning unix in your blog, now
>>>>> that is inexcusable ;) didn't someone do a poll of sorts earlier - re
>>>>> cp/m lol - there was life before torvald
>>>> Marc: re-read that section. I was listing the classes I've taken and
>>>> the ways in which they helped me. :)Â Context:
>>>>
>>>> "I've taken the full complement of CS classes to earn my BS, andÂ
>>>> almost
>>>> my MS. There are classes I may never use again. But I'm glad I had
>>>> CS... 321 (Operating systems; especially helps when running on "sane"
>>>> systems such as Linux or Mac OS X)"
>>>>
>>>> I've run Linux and Max OS X, personally. I've had no experience with
>>>> any other Unix. Nothing against them...just no motivation or
>>>> opportunity at the moment. I'd love to learn BSD, and probably
>>>> Solaris, but I haven't gotten there yet.
>>>>
>>>> But you're right, that paragraph could be construed in a more general
>>>> context, in which case, it should include other Unices.
>>>>
>>>> j
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Joshua Kugler
>>>> Part-Time System Admin/Programmer
>>>> http://www.eeinternet.com
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>> My twelve cents, as a UAF student and aspiring programmer: Nearly
>> everything I've every learned about programming was learned /outside/ of
>> class. Everything they have tried to teach me about programming per se,
>> I either already knew, or could have learned in twenty minutes through
>> online tutorials.
>>
>> The CS program would be a complete waste of time and money for me
>> except, as Josh mentioned, there are some useful classes that teach you
>> about how a computer works. For example, understanding what goes on in
>> the registers or how the various aspects of memory work can give you a
>> better perspective on how to program well. (And of course, math courses
>> and such are beneficial.)
>>
>> Not to say there aren't neat things you can learn to do in high level
>> courses. I'm just convinced, more than ever, that you don't learn /how
>> to program/ at a university. You have to do that on your own, with lots
>> of trial and error practice.
>>
>> - --
>> Christopher Howard
> If this is covered later in this thread, please overlook me. Though I live
> in China, and learned of this list through Christopher Howard via
> LinuxQuestions.org, we are presently in America visiting for the first
> time in three years. And I'm just catching up with this email account, and
> reading this particular thread in order.
>
> Speaking of which ... we have a website, and I am presently transferring
> the registration and hosting. Now I need to design something and am
> looking to learn HTML. I've seen various HOW-TO articles, but I don't
> particularly want to spend time "building a website" which says "Hurrah!
> This is my first website." I'd prefer to actually just learn the syntax or
> whatever is appropriate for HTML/XHTML and possibly CSS, since it seems
> that a lot of websites today are styled with CSS.
>
> And, for those zealots, I'll only be using ViM to code the site. Any good
> tutorials online that you guys would suggest?
>
> I enjoy reading the AKLUG mailing list, and will somehow wade through the
> 170+ messages that have accumulated since I last fired up Mutt in China a
> few weeks ago. ;)Â (and now I can't seem to send with Mutt using msmtp --
> will have to look into that tomorrow)
> Â
> Thanks,
> Bruce Hill
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Somehow, my every question about HTML or CSS ultimately leads me to the
same place:

http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp

I by no means fashion myself to be an /expert/ web designer. However, I
would strongly suggest that, rather than maintaining each web page
separately, you learn some scripting language and design a system
whereby the basic framework of each page is written automatically by a
script. Then if you want to change the framework of your entire website
you need only modify your script. This can be done fairly easily with
PHP, Perl/CGI, or a number of other means.

And by the way, welcome back to America.

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Received on Thu Mar 4 21:45:05 2010