[aklug] Re: AKLUG and others

From: Marc Grober <marc@interak.com>
Date: Thu Mar 04 2010 - 16:42:30 AKST

And I have HS students at Oregon who think the same of that program.

On Mar 4, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Christopher Howard <choward@indicium.us>
wrote:

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> Marc Grober wrote:
>> Just yanking your chain, Josh ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2010, at 3:38 PM, "Joshua J. Kugler"
>> <joshua@eeinternet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday 04 March 2010, Marc Grober elucidated thus:
>>>> But all that aside Jpsh, to mention sane
>>>> OS like "OS X or Linux" without mentioning unix in your blog, now
>>>> that is inexcusable ;) didn't someone do a poll of sorts earlier
>>>> - re
>>>> cp/m lol - there was life before torvald
>>> Marc: re-read that section. I was listing the classes I've taken
>>> and
>>> the ways in which they helped me. :) Context:
>>>
>>> "I've taken the full complement of CS classes to earn my BS, and
>>> almost
>>> my MS. There are classes I may never use again. But I'm glad I had
>>> CS... 321 (Operating systems; especially helps when running on
>>> "sane"
>>> systems such as Linux or Mac OS X)"
>>>
>>> I've run Linux and Max OS X, personally. I've had no experience
>>> with
>>> any other Unix. Nothing against them...just no motivation or
>>> opportunity at the moment. I'd love to learn BSD, and probably
>>> Solaris, but I haven't gotten there yet.
>>>
>>> But you're right, that paragraph could be construed in a more
>>> general
>>> context, in which case, it should include other Unices.
>>>
>>> j
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joshua Kugler
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> My twelve cents, as a UAF student and aspiring programmer: Nearly
> everything I've every learned about programming was learned /
> outside/ of
> class. Everything they have tried to teach me about programming per
> se,
> I either already knew, or could have learned in twenty minutes through
> online tutorials.
>
> The CS program would be a complete waste of time and money for me
> except, as Josh mentioned, there are some useful classes that teach
> you
> about how a computer works. For example, understanding what goes on in
> the registers or how the various aspects of memory work can give you a
> better perspective on how to program well. (And of course, math
> courses
> and such are beneficial.)
>
> Not to say there aren't neat things you can learn to do in high level
> courses. I'm just convinced, more than ever, that you don't learn /how
> to program/ at a university. You have to do that on your own, with
> lots
> of trial and error practice.
>
> - --
> Christopher Howard
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