[aklug] Re: Ubuntu issues

Thanks.

Might get him to try Deborphan, clean and autoremove under current
circumstances. Not being a Debian/Ubuntu user, I wasn't familiar with
them. Could guess at what "clean" was, basically same as "yum clean" in
Fedora. Had to google the others.

What the heck is "Delocaliser"? I googled it and everything came up
Greek.

Jim G

On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 14:38 -0900, Lee Brumbaugh wrote:
> There are programs like Deborphan or Delocaliser that I believe are simple enough that you could compile them with your standard make/make install that might be able to clean a little space up. I also recently ran across BleachBit (I believe on Sourceforge) that's basically a CCleaner for Linux that may help. If an apt-get clean/autoremove freezes up as well, you could run a find command in var to see what folder is taking up the most space. Something like a 'find /var --max-depth=1' will tell you which folder has the most data. As Jon was saying if it is a LVM, running vgdisplay will show unallocated space that could be added to var.
>
> Don't know if any of this will help, just things to try off the top of my head.
>
> Lee
>
>
> > Subject: [aklug] Re: Ubuntu issues
> > From: jimgribbin@gmail.com
> > To: jonr@destar.net
> > CC: aklug@aklug.org
> > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:34:25 -0900
> >
> > I don't think he's up to that task. He's still kind of a newbie. I was
> > rather surprised to see that his box had that many variations of OSs
> > installed.
> >
> > I only see him in the coffee shop and I'm not confident enough in my
> > abilities to go through that much in that environment. Maybe at
> > FriLinux, but not sitting in the coffee shop.
> >
> > I also still can't figure out how he ended up with a separate partition
> > for /var. I'm under the impression he just did a default install and
> > most distros, anymore, seem to put everything except /boot and swap in 1
> > partition.
> >
> > Speaking of all this, wouldn't this freezing thing be a bug that should
> > be dealt with? Maybe by the kernel people?
> >
> > This is not the 1st time I've seen boxes freeze because /var is full
> > (usually log files). It looks like the system is locked in a loop
> > waiting for space to open up. Space never opens, so it never returns
> > from it's wait loop.
> >
> > On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 12:22 -0900, jonr@destar.net wrote:
> > > Maybe he could just create a link to the /var/?? directory on a
> > > partition with more space. Also, mention to him to use LVM for his
> > > partitions and he can increase the size if he needs to. I believe you
> > > can grow and shrink most filesystems except XFS and JFS, those can be
> > > grown but not shrank.
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > > Quoting Jim Gribbin <jimgribbin@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > It doesn't. It just freezes the box.
> > > > I think the problem is, is that for some reason he ended up with a
> > > > separate /var partition and it is too small to hold the packages being
> > > > downloaded.
> > > >
> > > > Mike B. offered to talk to him about talking him through some
> > > > troubleshooting, but I think he's going wait until the next release and
> > > > just do a clean install of (just) 1 version. He must have 4 or 5
> > > > variants of Ubuntu installed along with Windows Vista and a Japanese
> > > > Windows XP. All on one, multiboot, box..
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 12:06 -0700, William Attwood wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Tell him to open a Terminal and:
> > > >> sudo apt-get update
> > > >> sudo apt-get upgrade
> > > >>
> > > >> If there are errors, it will prompt him with what to do to clean them up.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Jim MacDonald <jim@macdonald.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I also think he is talking about the update manager. which is nothing =
> > > >> > but a GUI for APT. and it's quite possible that his apt files are =
> > > >> > corrupt. He should be able to run "apt-get update" from the command line =
> > > >> > and that will tell him what the issue is and probably recommend a way to =
> > > >> > correct it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Jim MacDonald
> > > >> > jim@macdonald.org
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Feb 17, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Jim Gribbin wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > I have an acquaintance using Ubuntu 9.10, so he tells me.
> > > >> > > He tells me he is having difficulty updating the box using something
> > > >> > > called the "download manager". Apparently it causes everything to =
> > > >> > freeze
> > > >> > > when he's attempting updates and he ends up power cycling his laptop =
> > > >> > as
> > > >> > > everything is unresponsive.
> > > >> > >=20
> > > >> > > I am not an Ubuntu or Debian user and am unfamiliar with the supplied
> > > >> > > tools. Would anybody have some pointers I can pass on?
> > > >> > >=20
> > > >> > > I've been trying to encourage him to show up at a Friday night =
> > > >> > session.
> > > >> > > So far he's a no-show.
> > > >> > >=20
> > > >> > > Jim G
> > > >> > >=20
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