[aklug] Re: Confused -- manually mounting usb in Debian [solved]

bdk wrote:
> Richard, I had bought the 3 pack of 2gb cruzer drives at Costco and
> un-u3smarted them and have been using them all summer to carry ebooks
> with me. Mainly using them under Ubuntu (Hardy) and occasionally (like
> yesterday when I was asked to confirm that the u3 software doesn't
> auto-reinstall when plugged in) in Windows (Xp & Vista). I formatted
> them as vfat and I can't remember if I used windows (after un-smarting
> them) or linux to format them.
>
> Output from my syslog after inserting one of them:
>
> Oct 20 11:25:26 buddha kernel: [151902.441420] usb 3-4: new high speed
> USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
> Oct 20 11:25:26 buddha kernel: [151902.556426] usb 3-4: configuration #1
> chosen from 1 choice
> Oct 20 11:25:26 buddha kernel: [151902.557434] scsi8 : SCSI emulation
> for USB Mass Storage devices
> Oct 20 11:25:26 buddha kernel: [151902.557712] usb-storage: device found
> at 2
> Oct 20 11:25:26 buddha kernel: [151902.557850] usb-storage: waiting for
> device to settle before scanning
> Oct 20 11:25:26 buddha NetworkManager: <debug> [1224530726.730881]
> nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is
> '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_781_5406_4317520A6702EF32').
> Oct 20 11:25:26 buddha NetworkManager: <debug> [1224530726.841687]
> nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is
> '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_781_5406_4317520A6702EF32_if0').
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha kernel: [151907.550294] usb-storage: device scan
> complete
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha kernel: [151907.550887] scsi 8:0:0:0:
> Direct-Access SanDisk Cruzer 7.01 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha kernel: [151907.552722] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] 3940351
> 512-byte hardware sectors (2017 MB)
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha kernel: [151907.553697] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] Write
> Protect is off
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha kernel: [151907.553705] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] Mode
> Sense: 45 00 00 08
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha kernel: [151907.553709] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd]
> Assuming drive cache: write through
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha kernel: [151907.556468] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] 3940351
> 512-byte hardware sectors (2017 MB)
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha kernel: [151907.557111] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] Write
> Protect is off
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha kernel: [151907.557119] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] Mode
> Sense: 45 00 00 08
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha kernel: [151907.557123] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd]
> Assuming drive cache: write through
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha kernel: [151907.557134] sdd: sdd1
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha kernel: [151907.558082] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd]
> Attached SCSI removable disk
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha kernel: [151907.558121] sd 8:0:0:0: Attached scsi
> generic sg5 type 0
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha NetworkManager: <debug> [1224530731.798972]
> nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is
> '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_781_5406_4317520A6702EF32_if0_scsi_host').
>
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha NetworkManager: <debug> [1224530731.802805]
> nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is
> '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_781_5406_4317520A6702EF32_if0_scsi_host_scsi_device_lun0').
>
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha NetworkManager: <debug> [1224530731.805674]
> nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is
> '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_781_5406_4317520A6702EF32_if0_scsi_host_scsi_device_lun0_scsi_generic').
>
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha NetworkManager: <debug> [1224530731.975448]
> nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is
> '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_SanDisk_Cruzer_4317520A6702EF32_0_0').
>
> Oct 20 11:25:31 buddha NetworkManager: <debug> [1224530731.989600]
> nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is
> '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_uuid_473D_00FA').
> Oct 20 11:25:32 buddha hald: mounted /dev/sdd1 on behalf of uid 1000
>
> Output from 'mount':
>
> /dev/sdd1 on /media/CISCOBOOKS2 type vfat
> (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,flush)
>
> I tried the flash drives in two other headless Debian servers and
> neither auto-mounted and I don't think they ever did but they did detect
> them and attach them to the next scsi /dev/sd? device.
>
> Hopefully comparing output can help you figure out why they're not
> auto-mounting at least under Debian, did they auto-mount prior under
> Debian? I wonder if the Debian desktop has an auto-mount package
> installed that the non-x server doesn't
>
> -Sean
>
> Richard Moore wrote:
>
>> I have 3 scandisk drives that do not mount as U3 devices in ubuntu, and
>> debian desktops. since I used the U3 uninstaller it does not auto mount on
>> anything..
>> Richard
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Jim Gribbin <jimgribbin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> You can't just mount the SanDisk and ignore the U3?
>>>
>>> My U3 drive mounts automatically on most later distros, since FC3 or so.
>>> I end up with a 'U3 System' and a 'whatever I named the other partition.
>>> I just ignore the U3 System. Doesn't seem to bother anything.
>>>
>>> I occasionally get stuck doing some stuff on Windows boxes I don't own
>>> and I find it handy having FireFox and OpenOffice handy without
>>> installing at times.
>>> -
>>> Jim G
>>>
>>> Linux User: #179129 http://counter.li.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 10:02 -0800, James Zuelow wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Saturday 18 October 2008 01:45:57 Christopher Howard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi. I want to know how to manually mount a usb stick on my debian
>>>>> system, but I'm a bit confused about something.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It should be fairly automatic. From your log excerpt it looks like
>>>>
>>>>
>>> almost
>>>
>>>
>>>> everything is working.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> [318078.341408] usb 3-6: Product: U3 Cruzer Micro
>>>>> [318078.341409] usb 3-6: Manufacturer: SanDisk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Here's a problem. Avoid these U3 drives. They have this CD-ROM image on
>>>>
>>>>
>>> them
>>>
>>>
>>>> that insists on loading. If you delete the image on a Linux box and
>>>>
>>>>
>>> sometime
>>>
>>>
>>>> in the future insert the key into a Windows machine that has had a U3
>>>>
>>>>
>>> device
>>>
>>>
>>>> inserted, you'll get it back. For no other reason than SanDisk thinks
>>>>
>>>>
>>> they
>>>
>>>
>>>> have a right to keep putting that junk on your USB key, avoid these.
>>>>
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> However, when I try (as root) to mount these with
>>>>> mount /dev/sda /media/usb (after creating the usb directory, of course)
>>>>> The only message I get is 'mount: no medium found'. Same with
>>>>> /dev/sdb... etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It detected the /dev/sde1 partition, but didn't mount it. Is the SanDisk
>>>> formatted with NTFS? If so, do you have ntfs-3g or fuse installed?
>>>>
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Sorry -- I should have let you guys know... problem solved! I joined
the Debian users list, and they helped me work through this.

It was actually the stupidest thing, and had nothing to do with Debian.
The reason Udevd was not producing the needed /dev/sde block file was
that Udevd was not running! While is was configuring/installing
programs, I must have accidentally killed it. I started Udevd, and I
was able to mount all my usb sticks, including the U3 Cruzer Micro. I
have also successfully mounted an SD card and a few other devices.

Udevd was already in my RcS.d directory, so Udevd starts at boot, like
it is supposed to. So I can reboot and Udevd works just fine.

I think I'll just add a few entries to the fstab file, instead of using
usbmount or ivman, although I'm sure that they would work now.

BTW, I also hate that extra junk on those U3 drives. I only picked up
the drive because I was in a big hurry at the time and didn't think to
look closely at the info on the package. That U3 smart partition (or
image, I guess) always gets in the way, and I never use it. Back in the
day when I did need portable Windows applications, I used software from
portableapps.com -- and that worked great for me.

Actually, since I got a dynamic dns name for my home network, I almost
never need a usb stick anymore. I mainly need the mounting skills for
mounting my SD cards, gp2x, digital cameras, and that sort of thing.

-- 
Christopher Howard
choward@indicium.us
http://www.indicium.us
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