Re: Those IT guys are loony

On Friday 16 March 2007, jonr@destar.net wrote:
> Quoting Damien Hull <dhull@digitaloverload.net>:
> > Over the past few days some of the IT people on the list started
> > jumping up and down, shouting and hollering. Me included. Some where
> > pushing the Neva distribution others were shaking their heads at
> > compiling everything.
> >
> > What does it all mean? Absolutely nothing. Your distribution of
> > choice and all of the included applications will continue to work
> > just fine.
> >
> > I think the debate about Neva is really about uptime. How do IT
> > people provide good services and lots of up time to the end user?
> > Most IT people are focused on servers, network security, IP address,
> > subnets, compiling or package management etc... While these are good
> > things to think about it kind of leaves the end user out of the
> > picture. The end user wants to check email, surf the net, print and
> > maybe do a mail merge in Word or Open Office.
> >
> > Ever met an IT person that can do a mail merge?
> >
> > The IT industry is all about customer service. IT departments should
> > be providing services and support for the things the end user needs.
> > Not some fancy compile this or that. I argue for end user rights. It
> > will do use all some good.
>
> So this brings up a good question: What is AKLUGs focus?
>
> What are the goals for the list and the group? I like the internals of
> linux, I like to know why and how things work, I don't care about a
> mail merge. I like to build servers and tweak them for fun. For me
> Linux is not about another desktop distro.
>
> So is AKLUG still right for me or has the focus shifted to a point
> where the things I enjoy are no longer relevant on this list?

Iam one of the 'uses' that joined in the late 90's. I have seen the number
of users grow and the participation of ,at least, the older members
dimish. I don't why, is it hacker aversion to users ? More Linux users
is a goal though.

I have always bee a proponent of Friday Nite Linux, as to me, a way for
users to gather and support each other, without bothering anyone else.,
or the other way around. So right now and for some time there is a forum
for users, it could even be considered a SIG of Aklug. Do we need
separate lists ?

I wouldn't fell slighted in the least to have a list for a 'Friday Night
Sig users list. Or just a users list and a dev/hacker/ ?? list.

-- 
Greg Madden
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