Re: linux at south anchorage high

ps, the other schools are working, just the normal hiccups. south is suposed
to be the test case for the new model(only diffeance is the version of
software on the Mac server and a few other small changes).
On 9/12/06, Blake Eggemeyer <i.linwin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 1)it recently broke, no fix in sight
> 2)the pcs cant login, if more than a few try to then the server starts
> thrashing, the macs work unless the pcs have crashed the server
> 3)windows XP pro on the PCs, the new Mac OS, and windows 2003 server
> edition on the Pc server
>
> thin client makes sence to me, there just no chance i can get them to want
> to change the hardware, we have ~200 Dells and ~200 Macs, almost new. the
> server wouldnt handle the thin client system so that would also have to go.
> one idea thats being considered is makeing the shcools single platform by
> swaping all the macs in one school for all the PCs in another. the district
> has to have both Pcs and Macs because the school cant just advertise for one
> or the other
>
> is it practical to put linux on the server and leave the rest as it is? or
> is that just counter productive?
>
>
>
>
> On 9/12/06, Damien Hull < dhull@digitaloverload.net> wrote:
> >
> > I have a few questions...
> >
> > 1. Is the current model working
> > 2. If not what's broken
> > 3. What Operating systems are used
> >
> > In the district model you have workstations that login over the network
> > to a server. If the server is off-line you should be able to login but
> > you wont have access to your files. What makes the district model more
> > complex is that they have Mac and Windows on the same network. Students
> > should be able to access their files from both Mac and Windows.
> >
> > I have herd that it works but I've never seen it in action. What I've
> > seen are Windows workstations that kind of work and Mac's that don't
> > talk to the server at all. My take on the district model is that it's
> > overly complex and it doesn't work very well. The network I had to deal
> > with was broken most of the time.
> >
> > If your schools network is broken most of the time then the district
> > needs to change their model. Through out what doesn't work and replace
> > it with something that does.
> >
> > A thin client setup would lower the total cost of ownership. It could
> > also increase reliability. Which I'm assuming the district wants?
> >
> > Some of these issues are three or four years old. You would think they
> > would have them fixed by now.
> >
> > Blake Eggemeyer wrote:
> > > unfortunately thin cliet isnt an option because we need to stick to
> > the
> > > district model and all(if the server isnt working we need to be able
> > to keep
> > > functioning). would leaving the workstations mostly as they are and
> > changing
> > > the server to linux be a viable option?
> > > On 9/12/06, Damien Hull <dhull@digitaloverload.net > wrote:
> > >
> > >> There is no need to push out a Linux image. You can do that if you
> > want
> > >> but if you go the thin client rout you don't need to.
> > >>
> > >> My thin clients don't have any software on them at all. No OS! They
> > boot
> > >> from the network and suck down a Linux OS. Once that part is up and
> > >> running it connects back to the "terminal server" ( Linux server ).
> > >> That's where all the applications are. Everything runs from the
> > terminal
> > >> server.
> > >>
> > >> The thin clients can be old PC's because all the applications run on
> > the
> > >> server. All the thin client provides is keyboard, mouse and video
> > >> access. My thin client's are PII with no hard drive.
> > >>
> > >> If you want to learn more check out www.ltsp.org
> > >>
> > >> Blake Eggemeyer wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> right now we have macs and PCs that login to get files and stuff,
> > the
> > >>> standard roaming profile stuff.
> > >>> i want to set up a normal PC as a linux server, and 1 or 2 of them
> > as
> > >>> work stations, just to prove the concept.
> > >>> the tech guy is only intrigued, not really investigating, so i need
> > to
> > >>> make a case for him to really consider this.
> > >>> one of the big points, and one which i have no experience in, is
> > >>> active directory software. not having good management software that
> >
> > >>> can push images and stuff is a deal breaker!
> > >>>
> > >>> On 9/11/06, *Damien Hull* <dhull@digitaloverload.net
> > >>> <mailto: dhull@digitaloverload.net>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Blake Eggemeyer wrote:
> > >>> > the tech guy at south is at least intreaged by the posibility
> > of
> > >>> linux
> > >>> > is there an easy way to set a test case of a server and
> > >>> workstation setup
> > >>> > i dont know how to do this and would like to find out
> > >>> >
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> > >>> What kind of test setup would you like?
> > >>>
> > >>> 1. Workstation
> > >>> 2. Server
> > >>> 3. Computer lab of Linux stations
> > >>>
> > >>> There are lots of options. If the "tech guy" just wants to play
> > >>>
> > >> around
> > >>
> > >>> the best option would be to install it on a workstation. If you
> > >>> want a
> > >>> computer lab I would recommend thin clients.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm looking into a thin client solution for the Friday Linux
> > class
> > >>>
> > >> at
> > >>
> > >>> Highland Tech. I may have it up and running this Friday.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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