Re: wi-fi info

From: nate <nlubeck@acsalaska.net>
Date: Wed Jul 21 2004 - 00:13:16 AKDT

that's exactly what i'm talking about. i'm not tryin to make any money.
more of just expanding on a hobby.

On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 21:01, captgoodnight@acsalaska.net wrote:
> On Thursday 15 July 2004 03:21 am, you wrote:
> > On Jul 15, 2004, at 1:38 AM, captgoodnight@acsalaska.net wrote:
> > > I totally agree! Way to much competition in this arena, BUT, if you
> > > were to move to a place
> > > like Iraq, Africa or some other technological challenged arena, you
> > > may make it work. I heard
> > > on 91.1 once about a wireless AP vehicle that cruzed around some
> > > streets in Africa so some
> > > of the "privileged" could receive/send e-mail during certain times of
> > > the day. This was of
> > > course in a really challenged area. If I remember correctly, the cats
> > > that started the project
> > > were looking into moving on to stationary APs, funded by
> > > science/government
> > > grants. Not millions at all, but a cool thing to do ;)
> > >
> > > Another thing to think about, of course :) is security! Open APs are
> > > MiM havens! I kinda find it
> > > irresponsible to open-up customers to this genre of attack without
> > > their knowledge of the
> > > risks, from the ISO/OSI frame of mind. SCARY! Kinda lame! - only my
> > > opinion of course.
> > >
> > > What would be fun, and kinda worth it, would be to take old computers,
> > > turn them into APs and
> > > be selfish with em, sure have em has "hotspots" (I growl when I hear
> > > that word!) but keep it
> > > quiet; a small grid of APs for the penguins ;) Just for the geek of
> > > it. Dorms at UAA/APU, misc
> > > free spirited offices...heh, who knows, think about the dialog with
> > > your boss over that one...
> > >
> > >
> > > Totally off topic; those airplane gurus in Fairbanks with that home
> > > brew airplane, in the paper
> > > today, was the coolest thing in a long time. That plane is awsome.
> > > Truly a super geek award goes to
> > > those birds! Incredible! I'm jealous, I wanna build a carbon fiber
> > > airplane too! WOW! I gotta take
> > > flying lessons, ohohoh, a flying AP! heh
> > >
> > > bedtime ;(,
> > > eddie
> >
> > The only way that would work is if wireless technology (as i know it)
> > increased greatly, the advantages over having a system like that would
> > be.....I must scream that, THE COST WOULD BE HORRENDOUS, the only way
> > you could cut cost is if you had lots of these little things that would
> > route traffic between them, but where you get the space to put all of
> > these (i'm talking thousands around anchorage)
>
> Whoa there, maybe like 5-10.
>
>
> > or, you could have fewer
> > of these things with more expensive technology, to span the distance
> > better. Maybe i'm underestimating the power of wireless technology, but
> > as far as my experience goes, it takes a lot to get any kind of
> > connection rate that's worth a damn. A side note, if anybody does
> > decide to do this, anybody willing to pitch in for a CO-Located AP so
> > we could connect this sucker in to a rather large data pipe? I could
> > drum up hundreds of old pcs that would work perfect for a wireless
> > access point running linux, and nothing more, routing and firewalling,
> > but what about the antenna stuff? It's EXPENSIVE, and where would we
> > install this, the space on top of buildings around town and such would
> > be...expensive....And another thing, we'd need to be very thorough in
> > our coverage, because as soon as we're not, you're opening up holes for
> > maintenance/reliability HELL. Think if one goes down, suddenly, you
> > have a HUGE area that's down, and possibly a whole section of
> > anchorage, But if you had lots of these little things, they could
> > reroute traffic to others. And once the network is big enough, who's
> > going to maintain it? I would like to be able to spend all day out in
> > the field fixing one of these things, but that's not reality...we'd be
> > pumping soo much money into this, and never seeing any kind of return
> > on our investment. It's all talk...
>
> Ugrh, yes, it is all talk. I was thinking more of a small building, maybe two right next
> to each other (like dorms or apartment buildings). Yes, money would be an issue, wireless
> cards, antennas, cable, large pipe...The list goes on. If I was ever to jump into something like
> this, it would be for a few friends in a couple buildings, no service contract nonsense, fix it your self kinda
> contract, heh. No customer reps, no sales, no banks, no seriousness!
> A little beer here (burrrrrrp heh) a little Micgiver there, and presto, a larger than moms wireless network, heck,
> maybe even tear it down after the novelty wears off; catch my drift :) Duck tape action. Just a groovy thing to do.
> %hits and giggles :) Good learning too, taking an old pc and making it a AP isn't exactly a trip to compusa, umm,
> you get my drift.
>
> bests,
> eddie
>
>
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