Subject: RE: SCO vs GNU/Linux
From: volz (volz@koyukuk.at.uaa.alaska.edu)
Date: Tue May 20 2003 - 09:03:27 AKDT
There is the missing piece. People will do extremely strange things when
motivated properly. You got to hand it to Bill, he has shown an ability to
motivate. Greed is okay. It's an asset to the corporation AND provides for easy
motivation.
Aren't you all on the edge of your seats waiting to see the MS strategy for
dealing with open source? A case of hippy and the man. Community and cooperation
vs corporate structure and market share. Who GNU?
Whether or not the case has legs may not matter because of all the resources
behind the people making the moves. The clout microsoft wields over hardware and
resellers is scary. On the other hand the open source strategy is very clever.
You can believe MS did some research to find the achilles heel of the code and
will be taking on the political and market weaknesses eventually.
- Karl
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>Subject: RE: SCO vs GNU/Linux
>From: shortpier <shortpier@shortpier.is-a-geek.com>
>To: AKlug <aklug@aklug.org>
>
>Lets not forget that on slashdot this early AM there is a blurb about M$
>is going be licensing( http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-1007528.html )
>SCO Unix code......
>
>M$ wants Linux BAD....
>
>Shortpier
>On Mon, 2003-05-19 at 17:21, Jan Zumwalt wrote:
>> This is not meant to be a flame or controversial, but I believe your legal
>> authority is a might bit uninformed.
>>
>> MS has been successfully sued by Digital for stealing code for DOS. MS has
>> been successfully sued for copying certain aspects of Word Perfect. Logitech
>> successfully sued MS for patent infringement on it's mouse. MS was
>> successfully sued for copyright infringements for certain aspects of
>> Outlook.
>>
>> If your attorneys opinion was truly universal then we would have all stopped
>> using MS products in 1985.
>> JZ
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: aklug-bounce@aklug.org [mailto:aklug-bounce@aklug.org]On Behalf Of
>> Damien Hull
>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 12:25 PM
>> To: Greg Madden
>> Cc: aklug@aklug.org
>> Subject: Re: SCO vs GNU/Linux
>>
>>
>> Don't know if you know this but FreeBSD is older then Linux. The reason
>> more people use Linux and not FreeBSD is because AT&T sued them. They
>> claimed that FreeBSD contained AT&T code.
>>
>> >From what I've read on the story FreeBSD did have some AT&T code. In the
>> end the FreeBSD team took out the code and put in their own.
>>
>> The reason AT&T was able to do this was because they could point to a
>> specific item. FreeBSD had code from the original BSD distribution that
>> AT&T funded. They did not however make the claim that FreeBSD could not
>> have been created with out the help of AT&T and the BSD operating
>> system.
>>
>> SCO needs to point to specific items. If they can't then the lawsuit
>> means nothing.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 2003-05-19 at 11:07, Greg Madden wrote:
>> >
>> > This list has been pretty quiet concerning the SCO lawsuit. It seems
>> > that SCO's strategy is clarifying as time passes. The following quote is
>> > from a small shop that supports/sell Linux boxes, and has stopped using
>> > Linux. It could take years to settle this lawsuit.Anyone formatting
>> > their Linux hard drives :)
>> >
>> >
>> > "No, it is not good. I may have been at least partly wrong about what
>> > the whole thing is about. I was just told Saturday morning that we no
>> > longer support linux, and not because of our own choice but because of
>> > possible liability issues. And even worse, according to the lawyer, we
>> > need to "get rid" of our previous linux customers too, to obsolve
>> > ourself from past liabilities in case something is found in linux that
>> > is either copyrighted, patented, or is proprietary property of somebody
>> > else. Apparently, when it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt where
>> > the linux code comes from and that it is all legitimate, then it is ok
>> > to support and sell it again. I am not sure how companies like Redhat
>> > are handling the whole thing, but that is what we have done (are
>> > doing). For those customers that want to stay with linux servers we
>> > can only recommend that they seek help from online resources such as
>> > this list. I have much unpleasant work to do this coming week as there
>> > is going to be alot of questions.
>> > Jim"
>> >
>> > --
>> > Greg Madden
>> > Precision Air Balance, Inc.
>> > Phone: 907-276-0461
>> > email: pabi@gci.net
>> >
>> >
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>> Damien Hull
>> Network Administrator
>> www.digitaloverload.net
>>
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