Re: Factoids for the Kiddies: WHAT?!?


Subject: Re: Factoids for the Kiddies: WHAT?!?
From: FeLoNiouS_MoNK (codered@gci.net)
Date: Sun Feb 03 2002 - 16:47:03 AKST


hmm .. i really didnt know .. attemptin to root someone isnt an
offense..? only if you complete it..? hmm sounds good..
gives me more more to stretch my arms without "THA MAN TRYIN TO HOLD ME
DOWN!" .. i guess ill get a couple of oc3's and
start flooding there ip address.. sheesh.. its not illegal or anything..
thanx... F_MoNK

Christopher Erickson wrote:

>1. GCI forwards dozens of qualified security issues to various authorities every
>week.
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>2. GCI does NOT feed information back to those people making reports of security
>violations. Doing so would compromise ongoing investigations.
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>3. GCI will NOT act against users without collecting our own evidence of
>violations.
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>4. Last week alone, seven subpoenas were issued to GCI by various law
>enforcement agencies involved in ongoing criminal investigations.
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>5. Many "script kiddy" activities are technically not security violations, as
>defined by State or Federal law. As such, there is no violation to investigate.
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>6. Verified reports of "script kiddy" activity usually gets the suspect user put
>on the watch list.
>
>-Christopher Erickson
>Network Design Engineer II
>GCI Internet
>2550 Denali St., Suite 1000
>Anchorage, AK 99503
>www.gci.com
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: aklug-bounce@aklug.org [mailto:aklug-bounce@aklug.org]On Behalf Of
>Buddha
>Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 12:24 PM
>To: 'Scott Johnson'
>Cc: aklug@aklug.org
>Subject: RE: SCRIPT KIDDIES! Beware..
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>I had people scan me for weeks. I even had the phone # to CGI's head
>security dude (ex-Air Force Unix guy) and they did absolutely nothing. My
>scan logs were up to 30MB in size a day...plenty of "evidence". This was on
>a Slackware 7.0 firewall with all ports locked down. The scanners were just
>harassing me and being annoying. IMHO GCI's view on security is pretty
>lame. That one security guy I talked to said he's the "only security person
>they have" and he "get's a couple hundred emails on Mondays". Sounds to me
>like they need to hire some more people.
>
>Jim "Buddha" McMorris
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: aklug-bounce@aklug.org [mailto:aklug-bounce@aklug.org]On Behalf Of
>Scott Johnson
>Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 11:50 AM
>To: FeLoNiouS_MoNK
>Cc: aklug@aklug.org
>Subject: Re: SCRIPT KIDDIES! Beware..
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>email your logs to security@gci.net.... they usually take these things
>pretty seriously.
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>Scott
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "FeLoNiouS_MoNK" <codered@gci.net>
>To: <aklug@aklug.org>
>Sent: 03 February, 2002 10:55
>Subject: SCRIPT KIDDIES! Beware..
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>>cable-251-8-237-24.anchorageak.net (24.237.8.251)
>>cable-18-5-237-24.anchorageak.net (24.237.5.18)
>>11-255-237-24-cable.nome.ak.net (24.237.255.11)
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>>These are three local hits i have taken within the last 24 hours .. they
>>are runnin the NT port 80(http) sploits... .. usually i dont mind
>>since my boxen is purty secure .. but watchin this light on my modem go
>>ballistic cause these kids are runnin the scripts over and over
>>and over again ... errr.. maybe its the hangover .. maybe not.. anywayz
>>.. if any of these are you out there let me know .. cause if i see
>>them again imma get someone to hit them wit an oc3 ... errrrr..
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>>==--Runnin' a script and callin yourself a Hacker is like building wit
>>duplo blocks and calling yourself an ARCHITECT!--==
>> Scripts .. bringin
>>sploits to the lame since 1993
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