[aklug] Re: Emacs, vi(m) or other

Does anyone care anymore?
Vi vs Emacs is so 1990s to me (I am younger). Most programmers use an IDE
like Netbeans or Eclipse or some integrated environment where they do not
need a million shells running various tools.

Unix is strange in the fact that everything is a file so text has a much
greater importance in editing compared to other platforms. Of course the one
true editor is this one http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html :-)

Emacs, well I have no reason to use it or memorize its reflexes and
commands. IDE's can do a much better job programming so that leaves simple
text editing to Vim which can do this very efficiently. If this was 1998 I
would want to learn Emacs if I had a large project but I do not need
something like that now. I can do "make x" in vim and create shells just
like Emacs. I suppose if you are good with emacs then you should continue to
use it but I find both vi and emacs more and more obsolete by the day.

Also the gnu debugger is horrible. I wonder if this is because GNU expects
people to run non-threaded programs in a terminal with cryptic commands? If
a visual multi-thread enabled debugger was available you can bet emacs would
be dropped. It is one of the benefits of using VS.NET on Windows.

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:38 AM, michael huff <mphuff@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Christopher Howard <choward@indicium.us
> >wrote:
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> > On 08/15/10 22:06, Greg Madden wrote:
> > > On Friday 13 August 2010 20:24:55 Christopher Kunzler wrote:
> > >> Sorry about brining up religion, I was just wondering what
> > >> everyone's preference is.
> > >
> > > I can't control myself any longer .
> > >
> > > Caveat, desktop user pov.
> > >
> > > Of course it depends...on the job at hand
> > >
> > > For simple editing of a text file I use nano, default on a Debian
> > install, so
> > > it is everywhere :)
> > >
> > > I like vi, but I don't need the features so I forget how to use it.
> > >
> > > emacs, never installed it, and in recent memory, it doesn't get
> > installed by
> > > default. Seems like there was a time when emacs was installed...hmmm.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Probably the reason Emacs isn't installed everywhere be default is
> > because even the stripped down Emacs binary is 10M+ in size, while nano
> > is around 100K. Not sure how vim weighs in, off the top of my head.
> >
> > - --
> > Christopher Howard
> > frigidcode.com
> > theologia.indicium.us
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> > on Fedora 13, here's the output of ls -l /bin/vi
> -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 721952 Mar 25 15:24 /bin/vi
>
> /bin/vi --version reveals it's vim.
>
> nvi (on Fedora 13), is 400k.
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