I use suse.
aklug@aklug.org wrote:
> aklug Digest Mon, 09 Nov 2009 Volume: 08 Issue: 220
>
> In This Issue:
> [aklug] Re: hosted distros
> [aklug] Re: hosted distros
> [aklug] Re: HIJACKED THREAD! HA HA HA! [was Re: hosted distr
> [aklug] Re: HIJACKED THREAD! HA HA HA! [was Re: hosted distr
> [aklug] Re: HIJACKED THREAD! HA HA HA! [was Re: hosted distr
> [aklug] Re: HIJACKED THREAD! HA HA HA! [was Re: hosted distr
> [aklug] Re: HIJACKED THREAD! HA HA HA! [was Re: hosted distr
> [aklug] Re: HIJACKED THREAD! HA HA HA! [was Re: hosted distr
> [aklug] Nortel/VOIP brains?
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>
> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:20:31 -0900
> From: Royce Williams <royce@alaska.net>
> Subject: [aklug] Re: hosted distros
>
> Christopher Howard wrote, on 11/9/2009 12:41 PM:
>
>> Sorry, I think I must have missed an e-mail. Is aklug starting a new
>> distro ISO mirror?
>>
>
> I asked the list what distros they would want to see when
> mirrors.acsalaska.net gets some additional disk space.
>
> Royce
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: captgoodnight captgoodnight <captgoodnight@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [aklug] Re: hosted distros
> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:29:36 -0900
>
>
> I stopped using Gentoo years ago due to the use of tripwire and the abundance of changing files and such, as a security admin it was a pain to keep up with - ROI...
>
> Has that changed?
>
> ty,
> --eddie
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:41:56 -0900
>> From: choward@indicium.us
>> To: aklug@aklug.org
>> Subject: [aklug] Re: hosted distros
>>
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>> barsalou wrote:
>>
>>> Quoting Lee <lee@afabco.org>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The ones I'm using most are:
>>>>
>>>> centos
>>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>>> ubuntu
>>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>> mint
>>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>> openwrt
>>>>
>>> +1
>>>
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>> Gentoo rulz forever!
>>
>> Sorry, I think I must have missed an e-mail. Is aklug starting a new
>> distro ISO mirror?
>>
>> Gentoo is the only distro I need. However, if you are going to mirror
>> Gentoo installation materials, please be aware that Gentoo has a weekly
>> build of the installation disks and stage3 tarballs, so you would need
>> to keep the mirror up-to-date for it to be of any use.
>>
>> - --
>> Christopher Howard
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>> http://theologia.indicium.us
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> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:13:04 -0900
> From: Christopher Howard <choward@indicium.us>
> Subject: [aklug] Re: HIJACKED THREAD! HA HA HA! [was Re: hosted distros]
>
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>
> captgoodnight captgoodnight wrote:
>
>> I stopped using Gentoo years ago due to the use of tripwire and the abundance of changing files and such, as a security admin it was a pain to keep up with - ROI...
>>
>> Has that changed?
>>
>> ty,
>> --eddie
>>
>>
>
> Since I don't even know what tripwire is I can't answer on that point.
>
> I'm also no security admin -- just a desktop user and an applications
> programmer. But there are plenty of people at forums.gentoo.org who
> would be glad to answer your questions.
>
> Regarding security: As far as keeping track of security issues, it seems
> pretty easy to me just to following the official Gentoo security
> announcements, which are available at the official website or through
> eselect news announcements, and which always come with specific
> recommendations and instructions. There are also a number of different
> profiles you can choose from that I handle the default options and
> configuration. On my architecture:
>
> [1] default/linux/x86/10.0
> [2] default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop *
> [3] default/linux/x86/10.0/developer
> [4] default/linux/x86/10.0/server
> [5] hardened/linux/x86/10.0
> [6] selinux/2007.0/x86
> [7] selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened
> [8] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86
> [9] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/desktop
> [10] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/developer
> [11] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/hardened
> [12] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/server
>
> Regarding adminstration: I suppose it might be a little easier
> administration-wise to use a distro that only makes non-security updates
> available in six-month or one-year periods. But even though Gentoo makes
> it possible to run software that is only a few weeks old, with all the
> latest code and features, there is nothing to stop you from updating
> your system less frequently if that is what you want to do.
>
> Usually I just update software when there is a security announcement, or
> when I really want the latest features of some game, office app, or
> development library. Gentoo lets me know before installation if an older
> package cannot co-exist with one I am trying to install.
>
> - From what I've learned so far, I would think Gentoo system
> administration would be quite doable, even in a large production
> environment, though it would require a different approach and mindset
> than what you usually expect working with your typical binary-based distro.
>
> - --
> Christopher Howard
> http://indicium.us
> http://theologia.indicium.us
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> From: captgoodnight captgoodnight <captgoodnight@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [aklug] Re: HIJACKED THREAD! HA HA HA! [was Re: hosted distros]
> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:46:31 -0900
>
> Yeah, i guess my loud self did hijack the thread, caught in the moment... Just curious.
>
> "Since I don't even know what tripwire is I can't answer on that point." <- Dude, check it http://sourceforge.net/.
>
> bests,
> --eddie
>
> back to normal programming.
>
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:13:04 -0900
>> From: choward@indicium.us
>> To: aklug@aklug.org
>> Subject: [aklug] Re: HIJACKED THREAD! HA HA HA! [was Re: hosted distros]
>>
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>>
>>
>> captgoodnight captgoodnight wrote:
>>
>>> I stopped using Gentoo years ago due to the use of tripwire and the abundance of changing files and such, as a security admin it was a pain to keep up with - ROI...
>>>
>>> Has that changed?
>>>
>>> ty,
>>> --eddie
>>>
>>>
>> Since I don't even know what tripwire is I can't answer on that point.
>>
>> I'm also no security admin -- just a desktop user and an applications
>> programmer. But there are plenty of people at forums.gentoo.org who
>> would be glad to answer your questions.
>>
>> Regarding security: As far as keeping track of security issues, it seems
>> pretty easy to me just to following the official Gentoo security
>> announcements, which are available at the official website or through
>> eselect news announcements, and which always come with specific
>> recommendations and instructions. There are also a number of different
>> profiles you can choose from that I handle the default options and
>> configuration. On my architecture:
>>
>> [1] default/linux/x86/10.0
>> [2] default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop *
>> [3] default/linux/x86/10.0/developer
>> [4] default/linux/x86/10.0/server
>> [5] hardened/linux/x86/10.0
>> [6] selinux/2007.0/x86
>> [7] selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened
>> [8] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86
>> [9] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/desktop
>> [10] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/developer
>> [11] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/hardened
>> [12] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/server
>>
>> Regarding adminstration: I suppose it might be a little easier
>> administration-wise to use a distro that only makes non-security updates
>> available in six-month or one-year periods. But even though Gentoo makes
>> it possible to run software that is only a few weeks old, with all the
>> latest code and features, there is nothing to stop you from updating
>> your system less frequently if that is what you want to do.
>>
>> Usually I just update software when there is a security announcement, or
>> when I really want the latest features of some game, office app, or
>> development library. Gentoo lets me know before installation if an older
>> package cannot co-exist with one I am trying to install.
>>
>> - From what I've learned so far, I would think Gentoo system
>> administration would be quite doable, even in a large production
>> environment, though it would require a different approach and mindset
>> than what you usually expect working with your typical binary-based distro.
>>
>> - --
>> Christopher Howard
>> http://indicium.us
>> http://theologia.indicium.us
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> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:52:12 -0900
> From: Christopher Howard <choward@indicium.us>
> Subject: [aklug] Re: HIJACKED THREAD! HA HA HA! [was Re: hosted distros]
>
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> captgoodnight captgoodnight wrote:
>
>> Yeah, i guess my loud self did hijack the thread, caught in the moment... Just curious.
>>
>> "Since I don't even know what tripwire is I can't answer on that point." <- Dude, check it http://sourceforge.net/.
>>
>> bests,
>> --eddie
>>
>> back to normal programming.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:13:04 -0900
>>> From: choward@indicium.us
>>> To: aklug@aklug.org
>>> Subject: [aklug] Re: HIJACKED THREAD! HA HA HA! [was Re: hosted distros]
>>>
>>>
>> captgoodnight captgoodnight wrote:
>>
>>>>> I stopped using Gentoo years ago due to the use of tripwire and the abundance of changing files and such, as a security admin it was a pain to keep up with - ROI...
>>>>>
>>>>> Has that changed?
>>>>>
>>>>> ty,
>>>>> --eddie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> Since I don't even know what tripwire is I can't answer on that point.
>>
>> I'm also no security admin -- just a desktop user and an applications
>> programmer. But there are plenty of people at forums.gentoo.org who
>> would be glad to answer your questions.
>>
>> Regarding security: As far as keeping track of security issues, it seems
>> pretty easy to me just to following the official Gentoo security
>> announcements, which are available at the official website or through
>> eselect news announcements, and which always come with specific
>> recommendations and instructions. There are also a number of different
>> profiles you can choose from that I handle the default options and
>> configuration. On my architecture:
>>
>> [1] default/linux/x86/10.0
>> [2] default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop *
>> [3] default/linux/x86/10.0/developer
>> [4] default/linux/x86/10.0/server
>> [5] hardened/linux/x86/10.0
>> [6] selinux/2007.0/x86
>> [7] selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened
>> [8] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86
>> [9] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/desktop
>> [10] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/developer
>> [11] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/hardened
>> [12] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/server
>>
>> Regarding adminstration: I suppose it might be a little easier
>> administration-wise to use a distro that only makes non-security updates
>> available in six-month or one-year periods. But even though Gentoo makes
>> it possible to run software that is only a few weeks old, with all the
>> latest code and features, there is nothing to stop you from updating
>> your system less frequently if that is what you want to do.
>>
>> Usually I just update software when there is a security announcement, or
>> when I really want the latest features of some game, office app, or
>> development library. Gentoo lets me know before installation if an older
>> package cannot co-exist with one I am trying to install.
>>
>> - From what I've learned so far, I would think Gentoo system
>> administration would be quite doable, even in a large production
>> environment, though it would require a different approach and mindset
>> than what you usually expect working with your typical binary-based distro.
>>
>>
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> "Open Source Tripwire® software is a security and data integrity tool
> useful for monitoring and alerting on specific file change(s) on a range
> of systems. The project is based on code originally contributed by
> Tripwire, Inc. in 2000."
>
> Okay, I guess I know what it is now, though I don't have enough
> incentive yet to research what it is used for or why I should care.
>
> I see it is available through an ebuild in the portage tree, but it is
> not installed on my system. I've installed four Gentoo systems so far
> and not run into it... does that answer your original question?
>
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> http://indicium.us
> http://theologia.indicium.us
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> Subject: [aklug] Re: HIJACKED THREAD! HA HA HA! [was Re: hosted distros]
> From: Jim Gribbin <jimgribbin@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:13:43 -0900
>
> That was something that impressed me when I was using Gentoo. I'm still
> impressed that with how often I'm attempting to figure out how to do
> something or deal with something, and my google searches lead me to some
> Gentoo documentation where someone has what amounts to step-by-step for
> it.
>
> Gentoo is still my fave even though I'm currently using Fedora. The time
> involved to keep everything up was just too much for me. I think
> everything would have been good once I got it layed out and set up, but
> getting there on a box I was trying to use productively ... wasn't
> happening. I definitely learned more about Linux using Gentoo than any
> other one I've tried. With the other distros I've tried, I feel like I'm
> learning more about Fedora or Debian (yes, I've tried it) or Slackware
> or ... or ... than actually about Linux.
>
> On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 14:13 -0900, Christopher Howard wrote:
>
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>>
>>
>> captgoodnight captgoodnight wrote:
>>
>>> I stopped using Gentoo years ago due to the use of tripwire and the abundance of changing files and such, as a security admin it was a pain to keep up with - ROI...
>>>
>>> Has that changed?
>>>
>>> ty,
>>> --eddie
>>>
>>>
>> Since I don't even know what tripwire is I can't answer on that point.
>>
>> I'm also no security admin -- just a desktop user and an applications
>> programmer. But there are plenty of people at forums.gentoo.org who
>> would be glad to answer your questions.
>>
>> Regarding security: As far as keeping track of security issues, it seems
>> pretty easy to me just to following the official Gentoo security
>> announcements, which are available at the official website or through
>> eselect news announcements, and which always come with specific
>> recommendations and instructions. There are also a number of different
>> profiles you can choose from that I handle the default options and
>> configuration. On my architecture:
>>
>> [1] default/linux/x86/10.0
>> [2] default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop *
>> [3] default/linux/x86/10.0/developer
>> [4] default/linux/x86/10.0/server
>> [5] hardened/linux/x86/10.0
>> [6] selinux/2007.0/x86
>> [7] selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened
>> [8] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86
>> [9] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/desktop
>> [10] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/developer
>> [11] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/hardened
>> [12] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/server
>>
>> Regarding adminstration: I suppose it might be a little easier
>> administration-wise to use a distro that only makes non-security updates
>> available in six-month or one-year periods. But even though Gentoo makes
>> it possible to run software that is only a few weeks old, with all the
>> latest code and features, there is nothing to stop you from updating
>> your system less frequently if that is what you want to do.
>>
>> Usually I just update software when there is a security announcement, or
>> when I really want the latest features of some game, office app, or
>> development library. Gentoo lets me know before installation if an older
>> package cannot co-exist with one I am trying to install.
>>
>> - From what I've learned so far, I would think Gentoo system
>> administration would be quite doable, even in a large production
>> environment, though it would require a different approach and mindset
>> than what you usually expect working with your typical binary-based distro.
>>
>> - --
>> Christopher Howard
>> http://indicium.us
>> http://theologia.indicium.us
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> From: captgoodnight captgoodnight <captgoodnight@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [aklug] Re: HIJACKED THREAD! HA HA HA! [was Re: hosted distros]
> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:03:20 -0900
>
> I totally agree, Gentoo is a great path. It was just to much for me to keep up with in that then business environment...
> thanks,
> --eddie
>
>
>
>
>> Subject: [aklug] Re: HIJACKED THREAD! HA HA HA! [was Re: hosted distros]
>> From: jimgribbin@gmail.com
>> To: choward@indicium.us
>> CC: aklug@aklug.org
>> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:13:43 -0900
>>
>> That was something that impressed me when I was using Gentoo. I'm still
>> impressed that with how often I'm attempting to figure out how to do
>> something or deal with something, and my google searches lead me to some
>> Gentoo documentation where someone has what amounts to step-by-step for
>> it.
>>
>> Gentoo is still my fave even though I'm currently using Fedora. The time
>> involved to keep everything up was just too much for me. I think
>> everything would have been good once I got it layed out and set up, but
>> getting there on a box I was trying to use productively ... wasn't
>> happening. I definitely learned more about Linux using Gentoo than any
>> other one I've tried. With the other distros I've tried, I feel like I'm
>> learning more about Fedora or Debian (yes, I've tried it) or Slackware
>> or ... or ... than actually about Linux.
>>
>> On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 14:13 -0900, Christopher Howard wrote:
>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> captgoodnight captgoodnight wrote:
>>>
>>>> I stopped using Gentoo years ago due to the use of tripwire and the abundance of changing files and such, as a security admin it was a pain to keep up with - ROI...
>>>>
>>>> Has that changed?
>>>>
>>>> ty,
>>>> --eddie
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Since I don't even know what tripwire is I can't answer on that point.
>>>
>>> I'm also no security admin -- just a desktop user and an applications
>>> programmer. But there are plenty of people at forums.gentoo.org who
>>> would be glad to answer your questions.
>>>
>>> Regarding security: As far as keeping track of security issues, it seems
>>> pretty easy to me just to following the official Gentoo security
>>> announcements, which are available at the official website or through
>>> eselect news announcements, and which always come with specific
>>> recommendations and instructions. There are also a number of different
>>> profiles you can choose from that I handle the default options and
>>> configuration. On my architecture:
>>>
>>> [1] default/linux/x86/10.0
>>> [2] default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop *
>>> [3] default/linux/x86/10.0/developer
>>> [4] default/linux/x86/10.0/server
>>> [5] hardened/linux/x86/10.0
>>> [6] selinux/2007.0/x86
>>> [7] selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened
>>> [8] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86
>>> [9] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/desktop
>>> [10] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/developer
>>> [11] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/hardened
>>> [12] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/server
>>>
>>> Regarding adminstration: I suppose it might be a little easier
>>> administration-wise to use a distro that only makes non-security updates
>>> available in six-month or one-year periods. But even though Gentoo makes
>>> it possible to run software that is only a few weeks old, with all the
>>> latest code and features, there is nothing to stop you from updating
>>> your system less frequently if that is what you want to do.
>>>
>>> Usually I just update software when there is a security announcement, or
>>> when I really want the latest features of some game, office app, or
>>> development library. Gentoo lets me know before installation if an older
>>> package cannot co-exist with one I am trying to install.
>>>
>>> - From what I've learned so far, I would think Gentoo system
>>> administration would be quite doable, even in a large production
>>> environment, though it would require a different approach and mindset
>>> than what you usually expect working with your typical binary-based distro.
>>>
>>> - --
>>> Christopher Howard
>>> http://indicium.us
>>> http://theologia.indicium.us
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> From: captgoodnight captgoodnight <captgoodnight@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [aklug] Re: HIJACKED THREAD! HA HA HA! [was Re: hosted distros]
> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:12:25 -0900
>
> That works, thanks Christopher. Just a recommendation, if you find yourself serving the internet, a HIDS of some sort comes in handy. It personally helps me sleep at night, lol. It does wonders for keeping a general administrative birds eye view on your file systems too. All those gremlins...
> ty,
> --eddie
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:52:12 -0900
>> From: choward@indicium.us
>> To: aklug@aklug.org
>> Subject: [aklug] Re: HIJACKED THREAD! HA HA HA! [was Re: hosted distros]
>>
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>> captgoodnight captgoodnight wrote:
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>>> Yeah, i guess my loud self did hijack the thread, caught in the moment... Just curious.
>>>
>>> "Since I don't even know what tripwire is I can't answer on that point." <- Dude, check it http://sourceforge.net/.
>>>
>>> bests,
>>> --eddie
>>>
>>> back to normal programming.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:13:04 -0900
>>>> From: choward@indicium.us
>>>> To: aklug@aklug.org
>>>> Subject: [aklug] Re: HIJACKED THREAD! HA HA HA! [was Re: hosted distros]
>>>>
>>>>
>>> captgoodnight captgoodnight wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> I stopped using Gentoo years ago due to the use of tripwire and the abundance of changing files and such, as a security admin it was a pain to keep up with - ROI...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has that changed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ty,
>>>>>> --eddie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> Since I don't even know what tripwire is I can't answer on that point.
>>>
>>> I'm also no security admin -- just a desktop user and an applications
>>> programmer. But there are plenty of people at forums.gentoo.org who
>>> would be glad to answer your questions.
>>>
>>> Regarding security: As far as keeping track of security issues, it seems
>>> pretty easy to me just to following the official Gentoo security
>>> announcements, which are available at the official website or through
>>> eselect news announcements, and which always come with specific
>>> recommendations and instructions. There are also a number of different
>>> profiles you can choose from that I handle the default options and
>>> configuration. On my architecture:
>>>
>>> [1] default/linux/x86/10.0
>>> [2] default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop *
>>> [3] default/linux/x86/10.0/developer
>>> [4] default/linux/x86/10.0/server
>>> [5] hardened/linux/x86/10.0
>>> [6] selinux/2007.0/x86
>>> [7] selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened
>>> [8] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86
>>> [9] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/desktop
>>> [10] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/developer
>>> [11] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/hardened
>>> [12] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/server
>>>
>>> Regarding adminstration: I suppose it might be a little easier
>>> administration-wise to use a distro that only makes non-security updates
>>> available in six-month or one-year periods. But even though Gentoo makes
>>> it possible to run software that is only a few weeks old, with all the
>>> latest code and features, there is nothing to stop you from updating
>>> your system less frequently if that is what you want to do.
>>>
>>> Usually I just update software when there is a security announcement, or
>>> when I really want the latest features of some game, office app, or
>>> development library. Gentoo lets me know before installation if an older
>>> package cannot co-exist with one I am trying to install.
>>>
>>> - From what I've learned so far, I would think Gentoo system
>>> administration would be quite doable, even in a large production
>>> environment, though it would require a different approach and mindset
>>> than what you usually expect working with your typical binary-based distro.
>>>
>>>
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>> "Open Source Tripwire® software is a security and data integrity tool
>> useful for monitoring and alerting on specific file change(s) on a range
>> of systems. The project is based on code originally contributed by
>> Tripwire, Inc. in 2000."
>>
>> Okay, I guess I know what it is now, though I don't have enough
>> incentive yet to research what it is used for or why I should care.
>>
>> I see it is available through an ebuild in the portage tree, but it is
>> not installed on my system. I've installed four Gentoo systems so far
>> and not run into it... does that answer your original question?
>>
>> - --
>> Christopher Howard
>> http://indicium.us
>> http://theologia.indicium.us
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> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:58:14 -0900
> Subject: [aklug] Nortel/VOIP brains?
> From: Jeremy Austin <jhaustin@gmail.com>
>
> This is partly Linux-related, since I run asterisk on it, but I'm
> hoping there is anyone on list with Nortel mojo. If
> Jeremy Austin
> IT Administrator
> Whitestone, Alaska
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