James Zuelow wrote:
> On Monday 06 October 2008 07:54:37 Leif Sawyer wrote:
>
>> James Zuelow writes:
>>
>>> Mozilla has trademark restrictions on their logo that=20
>>> prevents Debian from backporting patches to older versions of=20
>>> their software. So Debian renamed everything and builds from=20
>>> source without the logo. Sunbird is IceOwl in Debian. Looks=20
>>> like it is in etch-backports and Sid. I'm not sure why Lenny=20
>>> doesn't have a build.
>>>
>> Actually, this has recently been cleared up. =20
>>
>>
> The click-through EULA is a completely different issue than the logo
> trademark. AFAIK Mozilla has not relaxed their trademark at all.
>
> Debian does not prevent you from installing Firefox complete with
> auto-updates. All you have to do is get it from Mozilla.
>
> Debian does insist (rightly) on doing it's own quality control on Debian
> packages. They can't do that if the installed package auto-updates from
> Mozilla. So I wouldn't use the word "excuse" in Debian's disabling of the
> auto-update in their package.
>
> Debian also has a rule about not updating versions for stable editions.
> Debian Sarge used Firefox 1.5, and Mozilla said they would no longer support
> 1.5. Debian was left with a deployed base of 1.5 users that they would
> backport security and bugfix patches to. Mozilla (rightly) said that they
> were losing control of their logo when Debian did that, because the patched
> versions of 1.5 were a "Firefox" browser that Mozilla did not have control
> over.
>
> Both parties are correct when you look at it from their viewpoint: Mozilla
> does not want users asking them about a "Firefox" browser that comes from
> Debian, and Debian does not want users asking them about a Debian package
> that comes from Mozilla. The Iceweasel solution is relatively painless.
>
> Debian is not the only organization to do this. There are a variety of
> Firefox "Community Editions" out there, and Debian just felt that naming
> solution was ugly.
>
> Cheers,
>
> James
>
>
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Interesting. Debian's rules make sense to me.
From a purely aesthetic viewpoint: I believe I like the name 'Icedove'
more than 'Thunderbird'. I'm afraid though that 'Firefox' and 'Sunbird'
still beat out 'Iceweasel' and 'Iceowl'. (Somehow, it just doesn't
sound as cool telling your friends that your browser is a cold, furry
vermin.)
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