Re: Bandwidth Throttling

From: Brian ThunderEagle <thundereagle@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat Jan 06 2007 - 17:39:20 AKST

I use Charter, I have looked them up on some sites that keep track of which
companies do port blocking and Charter was listed as one of them. The
particular area that I am in doesn't have Comcast otherwise I would be using
them.

    Brian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Bultman" <adamb@glaven.org>
To: "Brian ThunderEagle" <thundereagle@hotmail.com>
Cc: <aklug@aklug.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Bandwidth Throttling

> Brian ThunderEagle wrote:
> >
> > Can they even block you from running a webserver? I know they can block
> > e-mail simnply by blocking the ports for that, but if you block a
webservers
> > ports you wouldn't be able to view any webpages. Unless they have more
> > complex filters that actually look for incoming requests and outgoing
> > requests. Seems like it would be an expensive thing to implement.
> >
> >
> Erm, not quite. Its' not that kind of blocking. To prevent users from
> running a webserver, they block *incoming* port 80. Outgoing port 80 is
> still open. And besides; when your browser calls up a web page, your
> computer and the server will agree on a higher port to communicate on.
>
> Blocking outgoing SMTP (Except through the ISP's own mailservers) just
> makes sense; otherwise sysadmins are spending half their day dealing
> with customers with trojaned and virus-infected machines (even forcing
> users to use the ISP's mailserver doesn't fix that. The viruses and
> trojans will use Outlook's configured SMTP server to crank out spam.)
>
> What ISP Are you on in Michigan? I know Comcast isn't blocking any
> ports down there....
>
> Adam
> > Brian
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kurt Mathews" <skidriprekah@gmail.com>
> > To: <aklug@aklug.org>
> > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: Bandwidth Throttling
> >
> >
> >
> >> Is that legal? Should we be taking ISPs to court for this? It doesn't
> >>
> > sounds
> >
> >> very legal to me....
> >> On 1/5/07, Luke D <jules.inu@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I pay for there highest home service and I have not had any of my
ports
> >>> blocked. I run my own test web server and DNS and other projects. I
> >>>
> > heard
> >
> >>> GCI did that thought. I wish some one would do a side by side
> >>>
> > comparison,
> >
> >>> I
> >>> would love to know who is the best.
> >>> On 1/5/07, Jim Gribbin <jimgribbin@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> It didn't occur to me at the time that the ISPs might be throttling,
> >>>>
> > but
> >
> >>>> I suspect GCI is doing that with bittorrent also. I downloaded the
> >>>> latest OpenOffice the other day and it didn't seem like it was going
> >>>> that much faster than dial-up. They were probably throttling too.
> >>>>
> >>>> I also find port blocking a little annoying. They apparently do it do
> >>>> keep people from running servers without paying for the higher level
> >>>> service. It's my understanding that if you pay for the commercial
> >>>> version of the DSL, those ports aren't blocked. At least fewer of
them
> >>>> are.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim
> >>>>
> >>>> Luke D wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I am hoping that some one can help me on the AKLUG list.
> >>>>> I called and talk to ACS and they told me they throttling Bittorrent
> >>>>> bandwidth. I know that it is used a lot of illegal file sharing such
> >>>>>
> >>> as
> >>>
> >>>>> music, movies, games etc. But I use it to get my Linux distros. Also
> >>>>>
> >>>> World
> >>>>
> >>>>> of Warcraft uses Bittorrent protocol to download updates. Does GCI
> >>>>>
> > do
> >
> >>>> the
> >>>>
> >>>>> same thing? I am really considering dropping ACS if GCI does not do
> >>>>>
> >>>> this.
> >>>>
> >>>>> The only problem I might have with GCI is there bandwidth caps.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also I am wondering how many people think that they should not
> >>>>>
> >>>> throttling
> >>>>
> >>>>> bandwidth and block ports?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Luke
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >> * Kurt Mathews
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> >> * k@uaa.alaska.edu
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